they should ban the charts - they screwed it up made like a joke..

 

What's worse is that they ruined also the album chart due to this...

stop with the nonsense!

 

one good thing about streaming is preventing the worst karaoke band in the history of music to have #1 singles anymore

they had more than enough in the past

Westlife fans should accept that Westlife have zero appeal to the younger generation that rule the singles charts (like they've always done and rightly so)

the Westlife market now is the album chart in Nov-Dec, and that's it, same as Alfie Boe, Michael Ball and Rod Stewart

 

no Rod Stewart fans are complaining about there single charts cos Rod is not having #1 singles anymore

Rod's market is the album chart in Nov-Dec and that's the focus

and no Rod fan is silly enough to complain about the singles

 

so be smart and do the same :)

Yep, and then next year they should change the rules to ban all Christmas songs over 3 years old.

 

The charts would lose all credibility - people would constantly be asking where the Xmas songs were...

And as is always brought up, the debates over what classifies as an Xmas song

kill the artists with a certain fan-base for the sake of music over-consumption.

 

I mean, I seriously lament how some artists get success but that's extreme. :lol:

What time do you usually get the update AJ? Are both charts runaways now? Thanks

 

Please don't hassle the source, updates are not always guaranteed. I know you are a new member, if we have the chart information we will post it ASAP.

 

We don't get much chart information on most Thursdays, we might get a late update, late evening but they are never guaranteed.

But if Mariah is number one this year and Wham next year, who do we talk about in 2021?

 

 

Ladbaby's 4th Christmas No.1. :D

I think the next OCC rule will be to do with reducing the impact of streams from curated playlists, as some others have suggested/predicted.

 

In which case Christmas songs would still be able to chart but they wouldn't be as high.

And as is always brought up, the debates over what classifies as an Xmas song

 

OCC wouldn't really have to make that decision - it'd just be any song over 3 years old that was clearly only seeing a boost in sales due to its inclusion on Christmas playlists.

Edited December 19, 20196 yr by AcerBen

I think the next OCC rule will be to do with reducing the impact of streams from curated playlists, as some others have suggested/predicted.

 

In which case Christmas songs would still be able to chart but they wouldn't be as high.

 

Yeah I'd be fine with that. Some in the industry are already calling for this so it's quite possible it will happen.

Album sales are low compared to just a few years ago, (which was already low compared to the best times for music), it's shocking

Edited December 19, 20196 yr by chartdj

Album sales are low compared to just a few years ago, (which was already low compared to the best times for music), it's shocking

It's noticeable most weeks anyway but even more so at this time of year. CDs were always a safe Christmas gift which would help sales soar in the run up to Christmas but as fewer people bother buying CDs it also has a knock on effect on fewer people wanting them as a present.

 

Just look at the sales of the top 20 albums from 10 years ago this week (chart published Sunday 20 December 2009)- and this was when the album markets was already in decline:

 

352612 Susan Boyle

251843 Michael Buble

143804 Black Eyed Peas

136480 Lady Gaga

131161 JLS

111599 Robbie Williams (6)

109730 Snow Patrol (7)

102750 Westlife (8)

100994 Leona Lewis (9)

100355 Take That (10)

 

97177 Will Young (11)

92114 Queen (12)

85938 Rod Stewart (13)

85059 Cheryl Cole (14)

74450 Paolo Nutini (15)

74009 Michael Jackson (16)

69076 Alicia Keys (17)

63492 Soldiers (18)

49896 Alexandra Burke (19)

47660 Rihanna (20)

 

195748 NOW 74 (1) (Total Sales: 819,850)

 

The top 3 albums this week will probably sell enough to have made the above top 20 but I doubt if anything else will.

I'm hoping it'll get #1 purely to stop people constantly claiming that the OCC purposefully rigged her to not be #1 as if they have any incentive at all to do such a thing. x

 

They literally changed the rules to stop it from getting to no.1 and then made up some ridiculous numbers for it so that Ava Maz scrapes no.1. They are rigging it.

I would like it to reach Number 1 as i think it deserves it.

I would say the same for a few of the Christmas Classics and would welcome them all reaching the summit in the coming years.

This year, should be Mariahs year.

Wow I used to follow the charts back in 2009 but I forgot quite how high album sales got around Christmas! Entire Top 10 over 100k, jesus!

It'll be interesting to see Ladbaby's streams for this week - last year he did just 5k (compared to 70k pure sales) to reach #1, but nearly 12k in week 2 (at #21). Can see them being even lower this year - safe to assume he would be #1 even on ACR :D

 

I'd guess even if ACR didn't exist, Tones would be falling 1-5 this week, behind Ladbaby of course and also Stormzy/Ed as well as Wham! and Mariah. Should be a much closer race for #1 between those last three next week!

I don't think I knew that LadBaby more than doubled his streaming sales in his second week last year, how strange - in any case I think he'll beat his first week streaming number (having two music videos alone will be a big help) but will be more frontloaded this time. Having said that, I confidently predicted his sales would be more frontloaded this year and that doesn't really seem to have been the case (even without considering the second version) so what do I know, watch it get a second week at #1 xx

From Music Week.

Rod Stewart, Stormzy and Harry Styles in battle for Christmas No.1 album

by Andre Paine

December 19th 2019 at 6:30AM

 

Rod Stewart has edged ahead in the three-way chart battle for the No.1 album at Christmas. But in a sluggish Q4, the final victor is set to post a total well under 100,000, a benchmark for sales in the week before Christmas. According to Music Week research, the biggest artist album in the Christmas chart has only been below 100,000 once before during the last decade (see below for the full breakdown).

 

You’re In My Heart (Rhino), Stewart’s orchestral album with the RPO, is on 48,360 sales, according to the latest Midweek sales flash from the Official Charts Company. But Stormzy’s sophomore album Heavy Is The Head has moved up to second place from No.3 earlier in the week. It also has a much higher streaming ratio, with 16,583 of its 40,401 sales made up by streams. Stewart only has 500 sales-equivalent streams, so the UK rapper could narrow the gap in the days ahead.

 

Harry Styles’ second album Fine Line was at No.1 in Monday’s sales flash, but is now at No.3 on 37,955 sales (including 9,461 from streams). The album will get a further push with promotional and live activity. “You’ve obviously got two massive albums that have been released this week, competing against Rod Stewart,” said Martin Talbot, chief executive, Official Charts Company. “It's great to see all three of them up there together.” Robbie Williams, Coldplay, Michael Ball & Alfie Boe and Lewis Capaldi are all above 20,000 sales so far this week. Sales skew heavily towards physical at this time of year.

 

According to a poll by ERA, Coldplay's Everyday Life came out on top of all respondents' music wishlists for Christmas, and most strongly in the 45-54 age group. Lewis Capaldi's debut was the choice of those surveyed under 34, while Robbie Williams was the choice of consumers aged 35-44. For reponsdents aged 55-plus, Rod Stewart was the top choice for Christmas.

 

But at a challenging time for physical music, retail has already expressed some concerns about key releases coming late in Q4. The figures below reveal the biggest Christmas week No.1 album for last decade, though Now compilation albums actually came out on top for all album sales in 2012, 2013 and 2016.

 

2018: The Greatest Showman (Atlantic) – 68,606 weekly sales

2017: Eminem – Revival (Polydor/Interscope) – 131,636 weekly sales

2016: Michael Ball & Alfie Boe – Together (Decca) – 109,708 weekly sales

2015: Adele – 25 (XL Recordings) – 449,870 weekly sales

2014: Ed Sheeran – X (Asylum/Atlantic) – 214,451 weekly sales

2013: Robbie Williams – Swings Both Ways (Island) – 126,330 weekly sales

2012: Emeli Sande – Our Version Of Events (Virgin) – 177,696 weekly sales

2011: Michael Buble - Christmas (Warner Records) – 317,114 weekly sales

2010: Take That – Progress (Polydor) – 330,251 weekly sales

Good to hear that 7 titles have all exceeded 20,000 sales so far this week. Next week should also be good, at least in the current album climate.

I think this year is All I Want For Christmas Is You's last ever chance to be number 1 with the maximum six days of properly counted streams. It will increasingly no longer resonate with the younger music consuming public.