December 27, 20196 yr I was just saying how this is fraud and I'm glad people are agreeing. In the sporting world this would be deemed as "match-fixing" which if found out could end up a court case. Even in the old days of buying multiple records/cd's/downloads - at least they had to be bought. What this chart has shown is a record company and Amazon have gone into bed with eachother and struck a deal that Ellie Goulding and John Legend would be streamed multiple times WITHOUT the request of the user. OCC did it to themselves by adding ACR in the first place. River wouldn't even be close to #1 otherwise.
December 27, 20196 yr Alexa has sure favoured Ellie but also Mariah and Wham, both were also played by Alexa when asking for Xmas songs actually, the real loser here is not Mariah but Stormzy, if we excluded the Amazon plays, Stormzy would have been #1 not Mariah Stormzy should be the one suing the OCC :D
December 27, 20196 yr I think if they ever excluded older songs from the Chart that would be a massive dent in my interest (not saying I would boycott it, that would never ever happen ha) but seeing any old song take off for whatever reason and battle against the current crop (not even specifically Xmas-related) is always an interesting feature in the Charts. Also could you imagine the outcry if say a legend dies (like Paul McCartney-level) and none of his songs were allowed to re-chart? It would be an extremely unwelcome precedent for the OCC to adopt...
December 27, 20196 yr This place will explode even more if Mariah missed out by 10 sales or less :lol:
December 27, 20196 yr OCC did it to themselves by adding ACR in the first place. River wouldn't even be close to #1 otherwise. Although this has not helped - it doesn't get away from the fact that a record company done a deal with a streaming service to bump up streams for songs that were not requested. In whatever case this is dodgy ground. Just think of the amount of people who could have betted on this weeks chart, only for the number 1 to be planned weeks in advance. That is "match-fixing" or song-fixing in this case and is also fraud.
December 27, 20196 yr I was just saying how this is fraud and I'm glad people are agreeing. In the sporting world this would be deemed as "match-fixing" which if found out could end up a court case. Even in the old days of buying multiple records/cd's/downloads - at least they had to be bought. What this chart has shown is a record company and Amazon have gone into bed with eachother and struck a deal that Ellie Goulding and John Legend would be streamed multiple times WITHOUT the request of the user. When the Beatles went "to bed" with iTunes, everyone was thrilled...
December 27, 20196 yr Amazon users are humans too!! When you're entertaining guests, cooking etc. there are only so many times you can say "Alexa skip" before it's too late. And by the way, even with ACR Mariah could have been ahead of Stormzy based on non-Amazon streams alone, once the free/paid ratios were taken into account.
December 27, 20196 yr Can someone explain the video chart? @1210630058672623616 This IS quite notable, probably not enough to make any difference but Mariah had a brand new video that was trending on YouTube - I simply don't believe she fell! And that thing at #13... doesn't exist. It's weird and could be costing Mariah some sales.
December 27, 20196 yr I think if they ever excluded older songs from the Chart that would be a massive dent in my interest (not saying I would boycott it, that would never ever happen ha) but seeing any old song take off for whatever reason and battle against the current crop (not even specifically Xmas-related) is always an interesting feature in the Charts. Also could you imagine the outcry if say a legend dies (like Paul McCartney-level) and none of his songs were allowed to re-chart? It would be an extremely unwelcome precedent for the OCC to adopt... I think Burns suggestion above is pretty accurate to what will happen in the new year but the reset rules will make it easier for SCR to be added and old songs enter at appropriate times such as when a huge music artist passes away. This will accurately make the chart at Xmas reflect the genuine popularity of new Christmas hits but represent a big musical cultural moment. Basically keep it like it was before downloads.
December 27, 20196 yr Do any of you know when was the last time,if ever,that two cover versions of songs from the 1970s were consecutive no.1 singles?
December 27, 20196 yr Looks like NHS Choir's Bridge Over You no longer holds the record for biggest fall from number one
December 27, 20196 yr Looks like NHS Choir's Bridge Over You no longer holds the record for biggest fall from number one It already didn’t, Three Lions went 1-97 last year.
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