In that case it could even be that their own chart is wrong, or calculated in a different way to Spotify's, but that they're supplying correct data to the OCC.

 

At the same time I wouldn't be surprised if it was falsified but then again I do think somebody at OCC (especially after the Ellie No.1 which seemed comical at the time) would have questioned the data with Amazon by now - they must know where it's come from and how it's compiled by Amazon.

There must be some Amazon streams at free ratios. In last year's chart show thread the breakdown of River's sales total of 78,193 included 77,795 audio streaming units, and this was from 7,629k paid ("premium") streams plus 902k free ("ad-funded") streams.

 

The only possible explanation I can see for the Little Mix above Bieber on Amazon thing is that Little Mix's could be coming from a significant proportion of free as well as paid, whereas Bieber's could be coming almost entirely from paid. If Amazon are trying to get a high chart placement out of their exclusives, it makes sense they would focus on pushing those tracks to customers whose streams are going to count 6x more.

Doesn't quite explain how Sweet Melody being #1 on Amazon didn't really affect its position on the charts yet Jess Glynne being #7 on Amazon (alone) is almost fighting for a #1? Same for Justin.

 

Has anyone got a list of the current Amazon chart? If all the songs above Jess are on ACR then it's the equivalent of being #1 isn't it? What number is Justin?

 

And you have to be careful comparing different weeks, particularly early on, with data missing. And if numbers are up significantly, then Jess might have done more streams to get to #7 on Amazon this week than Little Mix did when they got to #1. We don't have all the pieces of the puzzle.

There must be some Amazon streams at free ratios. In last year's chart show thread the breakdown of River's sales total of 78,193 included 77,795 audio streaming units, and this was from 7,629k paid ("premium") streams plus 902k free ("ad-funded") streams.

 

The only possible explanation I can see for the Little Mix above Bieber on Amazon thing is that Little Mix's could be coming from a significant proportion of free as well as paid, whereas Bieber's could be coming almost entirely from paid. If Amazon are trying to get a high chart placement out of their exclusives, it makes sense they would focus on pushing those tracks to customers whose streams are going to count 6x more.

 

Surely the ad-funded streams were from the YouTube video?

 

Edited December 7, 20205 yr by AcerBen

Surely the ad-funded streams were from the YouTube video?

Video streams were shown separately (133k) and counted to 245 units. The remaining 153 units were from downloads.

Video streams were shown separately (133k) and counted to 245 units. The remaining 153 units were from downloads.

 

OK. Do we know if lyric videos and static videos count towards that? Just thinking the chart rules contradict your theory on there being free Amazon streams. Confusing!

Or perhaps.. when a YouTuber used her song on an unofficial video and YouTube picks it up.. perhaps they differentiate between official video streams and when a song is used in the background of a user video?

http://i.imgur.com/zf9EQCp.png

 

Official Singles/Albums Chart Update Top 100

Source: OCC

Missing Data: Spotify and YouTube (both for Sunday)

 

Top 100 Singles

 

1 Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas Is You (19.3k)

2 Wham! - Last Christmas (17.1k)

3 The Pogues feat. Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale of New York (13.8k)

4 Jess Glynne - This Christmas (13.0k)

5 Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone (12.9k)

 

6-10

7 Elton John - Step Into Christmas

8 Michael Bublé - It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas

9 Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?

10 Justin Bieber - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree

 

11-20

12 Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me

13 Wizzard - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday

14 Chris Rea - Driving Home for Christmas

15 Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree

16 Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree

18 Leona Lewis - One More Sleep

19 Slade - Merry Xmas Everybody

 

21-30

25 John Lennon, Yoko Ono & the Plastic Ono Band with the Harlem Community Choir - Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

26 Michael Bublé - Holly Jolly Christmas

27 Paul McCartney - Wonderful Christmastime

28 Andy Williams - It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year

30 Justin Bieber - Mistletoe ^

 

31-40

31 Bobby Helms - Jingle Bell Rock

36 Kylie Minogue - Santa Baby ^

39 The Ronettes - Sleigh Ride ^

40 The Weeknd - Blinding Lights ^

 

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Top 100 Albums

 

1 YUNGBLUD - weird! (28.2k) *

2 Arctic Monkeys - Live at the Royal Albert Hall (17.4k) *

3 Michael Ball & Alfie Boe - Together Again (10.8k)

4 Kelly Jones - Don't Let the Devil Take Another Day (10.6k) *

5 Shawn Mendes - Wonder (7.9k) *

 

6-10

7 Michael Bublé - Christmas

8 Neil Diamond & LSO - Classic Diamonds

 

11-20

12 Jamie Cullum - The Pianoman at Christmas

15 Johnny Cash & RPO - Johnny Cash and the RPO

17 Sam Smith - Love Goes

 

21-30

22 Paul Heaton & Jacqui Abbott - Manchester Calling ^

26 Seatbelts - Cowboy Bebop OST *

27 Mica Paris - Gospel *

 

31-40

32 Abra Cadabra - Product of My Environment *

35 Fleetwood Mac - Rumours

36 Robbie Williams - The Christmas Present ^

37 Russell Watson - 20 ^

38 The Wildhearts - Thirty Year Itch *

 

Click on the above relevant links.

Wow at those sales for Yungblud. :o

 

All those Christmas songs and 'Blinding Lights' is still Top 40 ha (yes I know there was a remix released).

More top 100 info on the OCC site from 5:45 so please hold fire on requests!

 

The Kid LAROI at #42 on the singles, coming for the top 40 :cheer:

Mariah/Ariana/Jennifer is #57 too.

Surely that's confirmation that Mariah has it in the bag this week!

 

I'm proper shocked at those sales for YUNGBLUD, I didn't think he was anywhere near that big :o and I'm even more shocked at those awful sales for Shawn, even without a big hit single I thought he had a few more core fans than that :o

Not Yungblud selling 10k+ more than Arctics :mellow: I suspected he'd be #1 because of bundles but dear lawd.

Where are all those Yungblud sales coming from? The album’s not top 100 Amazon, low on iTunes and doesn’t seem to be anywhere on streaming. Is it all from bundles?

Edited December 7, 20205 yr by iain

There must be some Amazon streams at free ratios. In last year's chart show thread the breakdown of River's sales total of 78,193 included 77,795 audio streaming units, and this was from 7,629k paid ("premium") streams plus 902k free ("ad-funded") streams.

 

The only possible explanation I can see for the Little Mix above Bieber on Amazon thing is that Little Mix's could be coming from a significant proportion of free as well as paid, whereas Bieber's could be coming almost entirely from paid. If Amazon are trying to get a high chart placement out of their exclusives, it makes sense they would focus on pushing those tracks to customers whose streams are going to count 6x more.

 

This is a bit clutching at straws though... the simpler explanation is they’re just making them up :lol:

'Santa Tell Me' now higher than its #13 peak :cheeseblock: :wub:

Where are all those Yungblood sales coming from? The album’s not top 100 Amazon, low on iTunes and doesn’t seem to be anywhere on streaming. Is it all from bundles?

It's been #5-10ish on Apple Music over the last few days, not sure what sort of sales that means though.

Huge sales for Yungblud and incredibly low sales for Shawn!!

I was expecting comments on Shawn's sales but he's never been one for big first week sales and the reception to the singles has been much milder than previous albums.

 

'Illuminate' debuted with 15,554 in 2016 and his self-titled album debuted with 23,419 in 2018.

Yeah Shawn's doing okay, I was very much expecting a drop from his previous album!