February 22, 20215 yr The OCC author replied to someone on twitter saying ‘Jax Jones is the lead credit [as] his name [is] first on the track’. Then again he did mention incorrectly it was a ‘feat’ later... High drama :0) Edit: the author now says he is removing the ‘feat’ reference in the article and saying ‘collaborator’ Instead :0) Ps. Of course the logic of this is that Tom Grennan won’t get credited as a top 40 lead artist on Let’s Go Home Together, as his name comes second...... Edited February 22, 20215 yr by Marty
February 22, 20215 yr In the official lyric video the jar of mayo clearly says "feat. Ella Henderson" _TANQovQf54
February 22, 20215 yr In the official lyric video the jar of mayo clearly says "feat. Ella Henderson" _TANQovQf54 The OCC guy accepted it was a joint release not a feat (as per the album credit, iTunes and Amazon) but oh no the jar has spoken! :0) I guess the issue is more pertinent for 1st timers like Tom Grennan, as he’s named 2nd on Let’s Go Home Together apparently he won’t be credited for a top 40 placing...
February 22, 20215 yr The OCC guy accepted it was a joint release not a feat (as per the album credit, iTunes and Amazon) but oh no the jar has spoken! :0)Is it not only credited like that on those due to exposure and therefore it'd show up on both of their pages? :unsure:
February 22, 20215 yr I generally go by whose project the song is for - This Is Real is for Jax Jones' album so I'd count him as the only lead artist despite the & credit (which is how I've always credited it myself, similar to his tracks with Mabel, Years & Years, Bebe Rexha and Au/Ra). Similarly, Rain On Me was a single from Lady Gaga's album, and despite the & credit with her and Ariana, it was never a single for one of Ariana's projects. Some songs can be genuine joint credits - on the topic of Ariana, I've always seen Stuck With U as a genuine joint credit between her and Justin. It's not actually on albums by either of them and feels like a genuine duet where they're equally involved. As for Let's Go Home Together, Tom's got another single of his own right now so I think it's quite clear that Ella's the lead artist here, but that doesn't mean he doesn't get a credit and have it count to his own tally of top 40s!
February 22, 20215 yr I think the right credit is the one the OCC publishes even if it's wrong or not if the OCC doesn't credit Sophie Ellis Bextor on Groovejet, that's how it goes down on the history books it's not up to us to have a made up discography in which she was credited if Anne Marie wasn't credited on Rockabye that's it, qw cannot make it up this thing on deciding on who is the lead based on which artist's project it is makes no sense it's like making up your own chart credits
February 22, 20215 yr and Let's Go Home Together is on his new album It is now, it wasn’t before this single release. Good move, the way the song is building should be helpful. And he does a really good job on the song.
February 22, 20215 yr I think the right credit is the one the OCC publishes even if it's wrong or not if the OCC doesn't credit Sophie Ellis Bextor on Groovejet, that's how it goes down on the history books it's not up to us to have a made up discography in which she was credited if Anne Marie wasn't credited on Rockabye that's it, qw cannot make it up this thing on deciding on who is the lead based on which artist's project it is makes no sense it's like making up your own chart credits How many people consider 'Where Is the Love?' to be Justin Timberlake's biggest hit? 🙊 Then there's the Pussycat Dolls feat. Nicole Scherzinger saga go contend with...
February 22, 20215 yr How many people consider 'Where Is the Love?' to be Justin Timberlake's biggest hit? 🙊 Not the OCC...
February 22, 20215 yr Timberlake was deliberately not credited on 'Where Is The Love' at the insistence of his record company, the fact that everyone knows his vocals are on the track doesn't mean he retrospectively becomes an officially featured artist. Ditto with Sophie Ellis-Bextor & 'Groovejet' etc.... Is it just me or do the trends regarding featured artists seem to be reversing recently. I'm particularly thinking of dance tracks here, in the 2000s the (usually female) vocalist who had been drafted in always seemed to receive a credit regardless of if they were high profile or not. I remember questioning when I first heard 'Sorry' by Joel Corry whether that was the unusual name of the female vocalist or if she had gone uncredited. :lol: Since then i've noticed it a few more times.
February 22, 20215 yr I think the right credit is the one the OCC publishes even if it's wrong or not if the OCC doesn't credit Sophie Ellis Bextor on Groovejet, that's how it goes down on the history books it's not up to us to have a made up discography in which she was credited if Anne Marie wasn't credited on Rockabye that's it, qw cannot make it up this thing on deciding on who is the lead based on which artist's project it is makes no sense it's like making up your own chart credits Groovejet and Rockabye are not the same cases and it's not necessarily as simple as what the OCC say. Sophie was never credited on Groovejet, her contribution is a footnote on the CD Anne-Marie and Sean Paul are credited everywhere on Rockabye except the OCC. Whether the label want this or not doesn't really matter and anyone who ignores that as a #1 for Anne-Marie and Sean Paul is ignoring the credits on iTunes, Spotify, , social media, and yes, even the CD single The truth is, the OCC are wildly inconsistent with crediting to the point where, if you want to make some sort of sense out of credits, you need to interpret them. Do you not consider Lemonade a #1 single for NAV because the OCC can't fit him into their credit? What do you credit Goosebumps as, because even the OCC are flip-flopping between HVME and Travis Scott & HVME themselves? Not to mention the wildly inconsistent situation of single remixes - no DaBaby credit Levitating yet Cardi B gets one for Girls Like You, and there's even variation among The Vamps - Somebody to You and Oh Cecilia don't credit Demi Lovato and Shawn Mendes respectively, but Omi gets a credit for I Found a Girl which is the exact same situation. Choosing to use different credits to the OCC is not "making up" credits, it's actually being consistent in many cases. From my perspective as chart thread host, that's far more important. I'll agree that Sophie shouldn't be credited on Groovejet because she never was, same for Timberlake on Where Is The Love? but Rockabye is not remotely similar.
February 22, 20215 yr As I said in the separate thread on the OCC website, the credit they use may well be dictated by the record company. That credit is restricted to a strict character limit because the OCC's database doesn't seem to have reached the 21st century yet. That means that people like Miss Snob, the Suedettes and Class 3C are forever deprived of their place in chart history :(
February 22, 20215 yr https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/m...ntinues__32503/ Mogwai at #1, Foo Fighters #2, Ghetts #3 - 1800 sales separate the top 3!
February 22, 20215 yr https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/m...ntinues__32503/ Mogwai at #1, Foo Fighters #2, Ghetts #3 - 1800 sales separate the top 3! I'm leaning towards The Foo Fighters reclaiming the #1 album... hmm :thinking:
February 22, 20215 yr I dread to think what the sales are like at the moment given Foo Fighters were on 4.3k this time last week.
February 22, 20215 yr Pleased to hear that Ariana is sitting at #5. I was hoping for a top 10 re-entry for the deluxe so that definitely looks achievable.
February 22, 20215 yr Not the OCC... More trying to make light of it. I'm very aware of it being a label decision, to not credit him anywhere, as a means of preventing overexposure. Credits are confusing! Usually you can tell if a single would be 'joont' by the level of promotion each artist does (amongst other things)
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