August 30, 20232 yr Vampire is stunning! Pleased it’s going to no1! Doja song is not great. Doja song is BAD, but it is a tiktok dance narcissism smile at camera self-promo thing, aka a ... "challenge", which actually isn't a challengr. The Vampire song is like a weaker version of Gren Light, but it's alright. Definitely prefer it at no.1!
August 30, 20232 yr *Fully agree w/ those in the camp of while we/I DEF. prefer Vampire (masterpiece now imo) over the Doja song...I mean significantly lol this still feels icky, shady and like a desperate(ish) cheap move. Just on a totally objective level. Yeah, they highly likely didn't do it last week because of expectations of Dua's physicals. At the min. was a a def. deterrent. Yet, ironically, she underperformed w/ them esp cassettes! Lol BUT Olivia's has had a good few weeks now to accumulate a bunch while Billie and Dua were 'limited time'. Dua sold 6.5k physicals, not an underperformance at all especially considering they were released last minute, not on her own online shop and spread across 2 weeks, not concentrated in 1 week like Billie or Olivia
August 30, 20232 yr ^ Ah....my bad. Didn't know it ended up 6.5k. No, not bad at all! Take it that's the total of 1 week of cassettes & 2 weeks of CDs. Wasn't 100%. Def true about Billie/Olivia being more 'concentrated' or whatever.. Long as Olivia is a lock & no last minute upsets soo can't wait to hear it announced on Fri!!
August 30, 20232 yr Doja song is BAD, but it is a tiktok dance narcissism smile at camera self-promo thing, aka a ... "challenge", which actually isn't a challengr. The Vampire song is like a weaker version of Gren Light, but it's alright. Definitely prefer it at no.1! LOL. This. Preach. Sorry not sorry imo it's terrible! ONLY the Dionne intro=yes. Rest= steaming pile of NO.
August 30, 20232 yr so 'Try That In A Small Town' should still be keeping its distinction as the only US #1 since 2007 to not chart here (assuming it does hit #1 there which looks increasingly likely). It was already #1 in the US a few weeks ago…
August 30, 20232 yr It was already #1 in the US a few weeks ago… He’s talking about the zach Bryan/ Kacey Musgraves song which is predicted to reach #1
August 30, 20232 yr I think Zak is great and has some brilliant songs, but I can see him dropping away from recording and going down the songwriting route. For whatever reason, there's just no interest in him as a solo artist. It’s such a shame and I find it so bizarre he’s had next to no success. Such a gorgeous distinctive voice, super talented, charismatic, catchy & well-written songs, not to mention pretty hot - he should have the career the likes of Tom Grennan and Dermot Kennedy have but he gets paid dust time & time again. Been rooting for him for so long, he deserves so much more
August 30, 20232 yr It always amazes me that record companies, no matter what era of consumption method is dominant, will find some way to manipulate the charts to their advantage :lol: Building up a backlog of pre-ordered physical singles over a few weeks and then just dropping them into a convenient week when your main competition is closest to you is really very cheeky. If the OCC were that bothered about artists signing singles, I'm surprised they don't clamp down on this practice. Will still never forgive Harry's label for doing it when Space Man was heading for No.1. Good for Olivia, I FAR prefer the track to Doja's, but these CDs were due out next week, it's super shady. I actually don't mind it tbh. I mean back in the days when physical was the dominant format and songs would be promoted for weeks in advance to build up demand, it wasn't uncommon for release dates to be fiddled around with to avoid clashing with strong competition. In the Harry Styles case I do agree that it's incredibly frustrating to see some physicals randomly dropped for a song that's already been on top for weeks on end and ends up blocking another new #1 (never forgiven etc...). IIRC the Miracle CDs were also dropped weirdly late into it's run at the top but I don't think that made any difference to chart positions. But as a practice of trying to pick the best timing to get your song to #1 or to a new peak it hasn't yet achieved it feels kinda fair game. I can certainly accept that it's dubious and understand why a lot of people would just dislike it as a tactic point blank, but I do like how it can keep the race for the top of the chart quite interesting, especially as it creates a moving picture throughout the week and you don't know if the move is going to pay off- case in point this week. Edited August 30, 20232 yr by I am Kenough
August 30, 20232 yr I do hope that the OCC might consider doing something to stop the practice of labels just abruptly pulling forward physical release dates to whenever suits them best - it's a tricky one because it'd obviously be unfair to ban moving release dates entirely as there are other legitimate reasons to do so but it's very transparent that labels are currently gaming the system to ensure #1s / maximal chart positions by getting to choose on a whim which week certain already banked sales count to. Maybe they could ban sales from counting when they're moved forward to the current tracking week after it's already started or something? (I'm guessing we'll have to wait until next July for any theoretical rule change on this though so I won't hold my breath) Will be more than happy to see 'vampire' getting a #1 peak though. He’s talking about the zach Bryan/ Kacey Musgraves song which is predicted to reach #1 Yes, sorry that post was a little poorly worded but that is what I meant.
August 30, 20232 yr Yeah it is a littld dodgy tbh, and it was appalling when thry blocked Eurovision saviour, Sam Ryder doing it!
August 31, 20232 yr I agree there should be a rule about physical singles but not sure how they could implement it at least these last weeks have been interesting cos various artists all had physicals at the same time so labels didn't know how many physicals the rivals had sold, so was always risky to move the release
August 31, 20232 yr I do hope that the OCC might consider doing something to stop the practice of labels just abruptly pulling forward physical release dates to whenever suits them best - it's a tricky one because it'd obviously be unfair to ban moving release dates entirely as there are other legitimate reasons to do so but it's very transparent that labels are currently gaming the system to ensure #1s / maximal chart positions by getting to choose on a whim which week certain already banked sales count to. Maybe they could ban sales from counting when they're moved forward to the current tracking week after it's already started or something? (I'm guessing we'll have to wait until next July for any theoretical rule change on this though so I won't hold my breath) Will be more than happy to see 'vampire' getting a #1 peak though. Yes, sorry that post was a little poorly worded but that is what I meant. I didn't really think American artists like Olivia Rodrigo would care much about getting a UK #1 but clearly they do.
August 31, 20232 yr I didn't really think American artists like Olivia Rodrigo would care much about getting a UK #1 but clearly they do. They probably don’t, but the UK branch of their label will do!
August 31, 20232 yr I do hope that the OCC might consider doing something to stop the practice of labels just abruptly pulling forward physical release dates to whenever suits them best - it's a tricky one because it'd obviously be unfair to ban moving release dates entirely as there are other legitimate reasons to do so but it's very transparent that labels are currently gaming the system to ensure #1s / maximal chart positions by getting to choose on a whim which week certain already banked sales count to. Maybe they could ban sales from counting when they're moved forward to the current tracking week after it's already started or something? (I'm guessing we'll have to wait until next July for any theoretical rule change on this though so I won't hold my breath) Or... Release date is the release date. The single can be pushed back or pulled forward (officially) before the tracking week. If an artist chooses to pull a release forward during the week (or up to a week before maybe?), those sales will still count towards the release date. This would remove any reason for pulling the release forward (aside from wanting to get fans their cassettes early lol) Pushed back is a different matter entirely, but I feel like the sales should be excluded if the reasoning was not outside of their control once the tracking week starts.
August 31, 20232 yr Claire Richards have obviously rattled team Burna Boy - he has an 8 hour (*.*) M&G pop up/experience in Birmingham today from 3-11pm with exclusive vinyl etc., He’s safe for the top spot but pleased that they feel the challenge from a solo Steps member is a threat!
August 31, 20232 yr Burna Boy has expanded his lead today (per @OpinionatedYute on Twitter he's on 11,164 sales today and has a lead of '2,000+' over Claire, so presumably she's somewhere in the mid 8k to low 9k range).
August 31, 20232 yr Claire could totally do it, Burna Boy is zero safe at #1, he's barely 1K ahead He has streams to be added, had a 5 hour signing session yesterday and an 8 hour one today. I’d love Claire to get it (I’ve bought 10 copies in support) but I think she’ll end up falling quite wide off the mark.
August 31, 20232 yr He has streams to be added, had a 5 hour signing session yesterday and an 8 hour one today. I’d love Claire to get it (I’ve bought 10 copies in support) but I think she’ll end up falling quite wide off the mark. :o
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