More or less from my experience yeh especially the first 6 spins which is why the same songs do well.

'Step Into Christmas' being so high again is also a nice surprise, it'll fade pretty quickly though if it's just being boosted by a new vinyl release, hopefully can still overtake a couple of the other festive hits it was behind last week though.

It is also being used in a make up commercial which Elton appears in. Seeing the advert loads at the moment.

oh my Alexa is really on fake data mode :D

Good thing got Apple Music can add own song library so got Amazon songs on my Apple Music so 1 sale Spotify laufey on YouTube so had to convert in to mp3.

The more ridiculous thing is Jorja at @8

If the OCC believes that data they are pretty naive

The more ridiculous thing is Jorja at @8

If the OCC believes that data they are pretty naive

It’s more ridiculous of them to publish an article about it when the data is so obviously wonky.

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The trouble is I don’t think we get enough data from Amazon to tell whether the Jorja position is wonky? I don’t look at the Amazon charts myself but I understand they are slightly opaque and there’s more than 1 and they don’t contain any numbers. We know First Look is hugely skewed towards Amazon which has twice as much streaming reported as the other platforms, and that the few Christmas songs on SCR have a massive advantage in the official chart on top of that. We know anecdotally that Amazon tend to favour their exclusives heavily for auto-play, as they would of course. We don’t even know if the public Amazon charts allow for all the auto-play. So to me there isn’t enough information to tell either way whether the OCC positions are credible.

More or less from my experience yeh especially the first 6 spins which is why the same songs do well.

 

Nope!!! My Alexa spams him, plays Wham second , Brenda ghjrd, and Mariah 20th, if that. Sometimes she gets played 0 times an hour, Wham twice, Sam 4 times.

The trouble is I don’t think we get enough data from Amazon to tell whether the Jorja position is wonky? I don’t look at the Amazon charts myself but I understand they are slightly opaque and there’s more than 1 and they don’t contain any numbers. We know First Look is hugely skewed towards Amazon which has twice as much streaming reported as the other platforms, and that the few Christmas songs on SCR have a massive advantage in the official chart on top of that. We know anecdotally that Amazon tend to favour their exclusives heavily for auto-play, as they would of course. We don’t even know if the public Amazon charts allow for all the auto-play. So to me there isn’t enough information to tell either way whether the OCC positions are credible.

The OCC might be clueless about it since they only encounter this Alexa effect once a year. Last week, Jorja Smith was #9 on Sunday, then dropped to #13 on Monday and finished #26. I get that Christmas streams are down compared to last weekend, but I don't think it's worth publishing an article that'll be outdated in a day. Sam isn’t close to #1, and Jorja might not make the top 20 again if she only climbed one place.

Nope!!! My Alexa spams him, plays Wham second , Brenda ghjrd, and Mariah 20th, if that. Sometimes she gets played 0 times an hour, Wham twice, Sam 4 times.

If only that were true.

It is. My Alexa barely plays Mariah, oe Leona. It just plays Sam, Wham and loads of random crap Christmas songs. It plays ind8e pop girl Xmas songs before Mariah!!!

Is Ed and Elton’s song even a favourite or is it just playlisted well?

It’s not on ACR so it does better than The others. Once it goes to permenanr ACR its Position will reflect its popularity. It’ll probably still make the top 40, but it won’t be a top 10 regular

as an Spotify exclusive, Lauffey is doing 250K a day and misses the t40

and thats with Spotify having double the market portion relative to Amazon

 

so what is Alexa reporting for Jorja Smith for her to be t10? 1 million a day? :D

 

Jorja Smith is doing a lot better on Amazon than Laufey is on Spotify (#13 vs. #34) and given the prominence of Alexa at Christmas as we all know it actually makes a lot of sense Jorja is doing a lot better officially (and she'll be nowhere near top 10 officially by Friday)

 

In other news Alexa doesn't seem to have got the memo about Gary Glitter's noncery as his Xmas song is now #76 on the platform :drama:

This debate really never makes any progress does it.

 

If anything Laufey charting as high as the 40s as a Spotify exclusive makes me less suspicious of the Amazon exclusive positions - the Amazon songs are clearly shilled more, more (all?) of their streams are at the paid tier which counts 6x more than whatever share of Laufey's streams are at the free tier, and the First Look chart is always massively distorted by Amazon having an extra day counted compared to Spotify and Apple. It's not actually in the top 10. Also have to assume Amazon has a disproportionately high share of streams of Christmas songs because of it being the default service for Alexa.

 

The OCC may have questionable judgement at times but I'd like to think they wouldn't repeatedly accept Amazon's figures year after year if they were as obviously fraudulent as some people here seem to think they are.

I'll bet Jorja Smith will get the top spot on the OCC's trending chart tomorrow. They're predicting she'll jump 18 places, but in reality, it'll probably only be 3 places. Anne-Marie’s song has been completely ignored.

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Also I assume more people who have an Alexa will have a subscription to Amazon Music so their streams are probably premium streams compared to Spotify where I assume a LOT of their users continue to use the free version?

 

I am still suss of Scamazon though... but get a Tinashe original next year and it will be the greatest thing to happen to music in the history of music xxxx Yes I will be a hypocrite and until it actually happens, please leave me alone xx

I would welcome an Amazon Original Christmas track from Yousseph "Chico" Slimani or Westlife.

Alexa to get Sir Bob, Patron Saint Of Buiilders his fourth #1 in 2024.

 

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