There was discussion here at the time that the reason for River's manipulation was that the OCC were determined to stop Mariah going to number 1 although she finally did the following year.

 

100%!!!!!

There was discussion here at the time that the reason for River's manipulation was that the OCC were determined to stop Mariah going to number 1 although she finally did the following year.

 

And that was always complete bollocks :P

And that was always complete bollocks :P

Yes but why let the truth get in the way of a good Buzzjack discussion?

wouldn't work on Spotify cos the issue is not having exclusive songs

not even having them as track #1 on a playlist

if Spotify'd put a exclusive as track #1 on their playlist the effect would be negative cos people would start directly with song 2

 

the problem is that Alexa doesn't follow a playlist, Alexa plays whatever she feels like, and it's not only that it gives priority to the exclusives, the big issue is that it plays them on a loop

of course I'm exaggerating a but with the Ellie example but that's how they managed, pure and simple.

 

it's not about being exclusive, being #1 on a playlist it's about Alexa playing targeted songs on a loop in a repeated pattern

ypu cannot do that on Spotify

Exactly this. Amazon have continued to get away with this year in year out, presumably because the OCC either are happy that these are counted, or turn a blind eye to it, or (more likely I think) can't identify songs played multiple times in a loop like this.

 

As long as this continues, these Amazon exclusive songs have a huge advantage over most Christmas songs, adding to the advantge they already have with being on SCR and therefore their streams counting double those on ACR.

Has any Alexa exclusive become an actual Christmas hit i.e. charted in the following year?

Edited December 18, 20232 yr by Sour Candy

A couple of them have re-entered the top 100 but not the top 40 iirc.

http://i.imgur.com/zf9EQCp.png

 

Official Singles/Albums Chart Update Top 100

Source: OCC

Missing Data:

 

Top 100 Singles

 

1 Wham! - Last Christmas (23,590)

2 Sam Ryder - You're Christmas to Me (21,865)

3 Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas Is You (18,415)

4 Ed Sheeran & Elton John - Merry Christmas (16,011)

5 The Pogues feat. Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale of New York (15,021)

 

6-10

10 Jorja Smith - Stay Another Day

 

11-20

11 Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone

12 Andy Williams - It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year

14 Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree

15 Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?

16 Dean Martin - Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow!

19 Chris Rea - Driving Home for Christmas

 

21-30

22 Cher - DJ Play a Christmas Song *

23 Michael Bublé - Holly Jolly Christmas

24 The Ronettes - Sleigh Ride

25 Wizzard - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday

27 Creator Universe - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday *

28 José Feliciano - Feliz Navidad

30 Laufey - Winter Wonderland *

 

31-40

32 Slade - Merry Xmas Everybody

33 Leona Lewis - One More Sleep

34 Darlene Love - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) ^

35 Justin Bieber - Mistletoe

36 Nat "King" Cole - The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas to You) ^

38 Billy Gillies feat. Hannah Boleyn - DNA (Loving You)

39 Jackson 5 - Santa Claus Is Coming to Town ^

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

Top 100 Albums

 

1 The Rolling Stones - Hackney Diamonds (7,083) [6,792 physicals, 148 downloads, 143 streaming]

2 Michael Bublé - Christmas (5,615)

3 Taylor Swift - 1989 (Taylor's Version) (4,302)

4 Nicki Minaj - Pink Friday 2 (2,829)

5 Cher - Christmas (2,568)

 

6-10

6 André Rieu & Johann Strauss Orchestra - Jewels of Romance

7 Olivia Rodrigo - GUTS

9 Noah Kahan - Stick Season

10 Elton John - Diamonds

 

11-20

12 Fleetwood Mac - Rumours

13 Taylor Swift - Midnights

19 Taylor Swift - reputation

 

21-30

20 Arctic Monkeys - AM

26 Gregory Porter - Christmas Wish ^

28 Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon ^

29 Lana Del Rey - Born to Die

 

31-40

31 Queen - Greatest Hits

32 Cliff Richard - Cliff with Strings - My Kinda Life ^

38 Oasis - (What's the Story) Morning Glory? ^

 

Click on the above relevant links.

And that was always complete bollocks :P

 

It was the TRUTH!!! There is an anti-Mariah occ condpiracy!! We have the proof x

It was the TRUTH!!! There is an anti-Mariah occ condpiracy!! We have the proof x

 

1 The Rolling Stones - Hackney Diamonds

 

That's a surprise! Expected Michael Bublé to make it on Christmas week.

1 The Rolling Stones - Hackney Diamonds

 

That's a surprise! Expected Michael Bublé to make it on Christmas week.

 

 

He'll be No.1 next week.

 

I imagine sales are really close and Michael Buble will snatch it towards the end of the week.

Has any Alexa exclusive become an actual Christmas hit i.e. charted in the following year?

Cozy Little Christmas is the only example I can think of which charted relatively well the following year when it was made available everywhere. Not sure how it charted (if at all) the years after, but I feel most people would not associate it with Amazon now unlike River.

The tik tok crew already down to 27th today!

Cher at #22 in the update! :cheeseblock:

Whenever I asked Alexa to play when or last Christmas it’d always say to play specific songs you need Amazon music unlimited here is wham and similar artists then play the song anyway but now during chart week it hasn’t once played it no matter what you ask. So it is deliberate but what can you do

Ariana down to 17 from 13 yesterday - make it make sense!

 

Yay for Cher and LOL at the TikTok flops :lol:

Edited December 18, 20232 yr by Lee_J11

Cozy Little Christmas is the only example I can think of which charted relatively well the following year when it was made available everywhere. Not sure how it charted (if at all) the years after, but I feel most people would not associate it with Amazon now unlike River.

 

Actually totally forgot that was an Amazon song so point made! That actually charted 1 place higher in its second year. Pretty sure none of the other Amazon songs have done anything close to that.

 

Lol Creator Universe completely tanking. Hopefully on course to not even be top 40.

 

The Rolling Stones album had a new edition dropping this week so wouldn't surprise me if they do have a decent lead - would definitely still expect Bublé to take it next week either way though.

Cher at #22 in the update! :cheeseblock:

Top 20 is achievable!!! :w00t:

 

Let's get the download campaign going! :music:

Wow, what a disaster for the Creators. These download reliant songs seem to either go one of two ways - No.1 or miss the top 40 altogether - but LadBaby was probably the last hurrah for that type of very download-heavy No.1 single.

Edited December 18, 20232 yr by gooddelta