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Well, it beefs up the first half of the final.

It'll be hilarious if Rachel survives this.

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    If this is true then please can we not reveal it here, the show finishes tomorrow and I think everyone would want to watch that reveal live. Just a courteous reminder to everyone 🙂

  • Stephen has been much braver than I'd have guessed he would be throughout this season but wearing that outfit today was a new level.

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    A big well done to the winner!

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Me at the BBC for ending it like that

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I can understand Jack switching to Rachel because he's such a flip-flop (seriously, get him FLUSHED!), but Jade switching up especially after that compelling speech from Rachel when all James had to say was 'I'm a faithful nothing more to it 🙂' for the 786th time?!

At least Stephen didn't throw her under the bus, but there is literally no way for Rachel to win this now because Faraaz is just not gonna end the game until she's gone lol.

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Just now, Calum said:

Jade switching up especially after that compelling speech from Rachel when all James had to say was 'I'm a faithful nothing more to it 🙂' for the 786th time?!

He did say that the only reason Rachel would still be there is if she was a Traitor. There is no reason for her to be kept as a faithful - she's not come under suspicion and would've gone after Fiona was banished under normal circumstances - as she is too strong a faithful. Really she should've been murdered already

Its funny that 2 people swapped votes though

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Just now, ElectroBoy said:

He did say that the only reason Rachel would still be there is if she was a Traitor. There is no reason for her to be kept as a faithful - she's not come under suspicion and would've gone after Fiona was banished under normal circumstances.

Its funny that 2 people swapped votes though

But that logic applies to Faraaz and Jack too who have never come under suspicion at the round table or much at all throughout the game? This whole 'there has to be a reason I'm still here' logic needs to be dropped by the time the next series rolls around because they're all too dense to understand that it is indeed because they are just that.

I mean Rachel certainly won't win and will be the first banished if she's in the final likely, but still hopeful as it would at least more entertaining than the rest of the faithfuls. Very poor move not murdering Faraaz, they had Roxie under her thumb!

She shoulda kept Roxie in, said it was a double bluff from traitors again, and gone that route

Looks like Fiona was roght that she wasn't a team player though!!

1 minute ago, Chez Wombat said:

I mean Rachel certainly won't win and will be the first banished if she's in the final likely, but still hopeful as it would at least more entertaining than the rest of the faithfuls. Very poor move not murdering Faraaz, they had Roxie under her thumb!

I think Stephen talked her out of Faraaz, and he's just an atrocious, boring player, to get rid of her later

It doesn’t really matter what happens, I think Rachel won’t make the fire pit now. Not sure if James would if he survives.

Quite honestly, I don’t mind if the faithful or the traitors win. Now that Roxy is out of the equation, I don’t dislike any of them. A faithful win might be dull and undeserving but as I said, they don’t irritate me. Not like Leanne winning last year.

I did think that Jade was looking more likely to be swayed based on how she acted at this Round Table and her switching her vote to Rachel would have been a very thematically fitting banishment, finally figuring out the 'those closest to me' line, if Jack hadn't switched as well, which felt somewhat more random - though there was also the thing that James had been voting the same as him which I suppose makes sense.

I honestly don't mind who goes, I expect Rachel staying would make the final a bit more fiery so I guess I'm hoping for that, but this episode also felt like a fitting point for her to run out of road, I thought her final speech next to James' general honesty (and him saying that Rachel being here still didn't make sense) didn't ring true at all.

Oh no Rachel!!!! You should have got rid of Faraaz, it was the wrong move getting rid of Roxy... although it did amuse that Roxy was 100% wrong all the way until the end, going out by wanting Rachel or Stephen to win 😂

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Predication for the final...

James or Rachel goes at the banishment via chance.

Whoever stays out of James or Rachel is banished at the final roundtable. Leaving: Stephen, Faraaz, Jack and Jade to go into the Endgame

They decide to banish Jade - suspicion on her throughout the game - and it feels like there is more trust between Jack, Faraaz and Stephen.

Faraaz has floated his suspicions of Stephen and Jade the last few nights. So I reckon it will come down to if Jack sides with Stephen or Faaraz if the game continues.

So either Stephen Wins solo (with Jack losing). Or a win for Jack and Faraaz.

Or maybe Rachel manages to cling on and take the win :D

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I think overall no matter what the outcome....this has been a bit of a damp squib of a series really. Some funny camp moments but no real good drama, a lot of the likeable people went fairly early on and it has never felt really tense at any stage, like not really anyway.

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Just now, Jack said:

I think overall no matter what the outcome....this has been a bit of a damp squib of a series really. Some funny camp moments but no real good drama, a lot of the likeable people went fairly early on and it has never felt really tense at any stage, like not really anyway.

I'd strongly disagree, especially about the no real good drama - think this series has been great. Fiona losing it - plus that cliffhanger, Harriet losing it, the Secret Traitor and some excellent Traitor work from Stephen and Rachel. The Delusion of Matthew, Harriet's takedown of Hugo.

I Think its been strong overall. Extremely frustrating at times, but I think its mostly worked - my opinion might change though dependent on who wins

Oh my goodness, what a cliffhanger. My nerves were sky high each time waiting for Stephen to show his slate lol

I kind of want it to be Rachel just to see their reactions when she reveals her identity.

What I will say about this series is that, perhaps aside from Jade, it hasn't felt like anyone has been ganged up on.

Cliques have been a big part of previous series but it hasn't been a dominant part of this series.

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I’d say Reece was ganged up upon for a fair few nights before getting killed.

Judy was too - but that was first banishment herd mentality

I think killing off Roxy was the start of Rachel’s downfall tbh, I really thought the two traitors could win it but I don’t think that’ll be possible now, either Rachel is banished by chance now or will be banished at the round table tomorrow as there’s been so much discussion on her. I also feel like Jade will end up banished due to prior suspicions, and I think Jack will be happy to end the game with Stephen. Not sure on faraaz as he did mention Stephen but I wonder maybe that’ll be out to bed after Rachel? He might still push though so it’ll be intriguing to see if Jack is closer to Stephen or Faraaz in the end, I think Stephen can end up winning it now tbh, shame as I was rooting for Rachel & Stephen together but I can’t see her surviving now, and I think had she just got rid of faraaz and kept Roxy she could’ve still had a chance? I’m counting down the minutes for tomorrow. So excited for the final

10 hours ago, ChrisJK said:

I can't stand James. He looks, sounds and talks just like someone who is forced into my life and I hate them with everything I have. I've literally wanted James out since episode one.

The only reason I wanted him to stay in last night is to get Matt out, as I want a Traitors win and he was onto them.

Faraaz would be an underwhelming winner as he doesn't seem to have been that prominent during the series.

I really think this is shaping up to a Rachel vs Stephen for the final hurdle. Maybe ever a Split or Steal, if they will do that in the UK version.

Think being prominent and a faithful goes against the game though so hard for a faithful to play that type of game and it would be a stupid game to play. Much easier for the traitors to do that albeit they’d have to be careful.

There's still a chance for Rachel if she stays. If her and Stephen vote in a pact and Stephen can persuade Jack, then the move is to take Faraaz out. Ultimately the edit was telling me today we're set up for a Stephen and Jack final.

Definitely the wrong play to take out Roxy, she could have been easily manipulated. I do think she takes the crown from Meryl as the most useless Faithful on the UK series at least. At least she was completely wrong up to the end.

James is great TV. He would infuriate the life out of me too, but I like how utterly chaotic he is.

Just caught up on the first episode from this week and the dagger play from Rachel and Stephen was perfection, the advantage went straight to James head.

This was the first episode where I’ve started to find James annoying as well.

I was glad to see the back of Matthew as I found it difficult to warm to him.

Hoping Faraaz and Jack or Jade win it all. I’m also hoping Rachel is the next banished.

It's so stupid that anyone could think James is a Traitor.

He literally tried to steal a shield BEHIND THEIR BACKS. A Traitor simply doesn't need to do that. Only a desperate Faithful would.

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