Idina>>>>>>>

 

(As usual x)

It might not just be Alexa that is helping to push 'River'. I posted this response to a question someone asked over at Haven about how Amazon seems to be having quite an effect on the charts. I don't have Alexa but I do have an Amazon Music app on my computer and for this month I am able to stream music from Amazon Music for free:

 

Anyone who is signed up to Amazon Prime can access Amazon Music. I signed up last week on a month's trial (therefore it's free for this month) simply to watch the Premier League football matches they are showing this month. Not only do I get the football for free I also get all Amazon deliveries for free and can stream music on Amazon Music, also for free and with no adverts.

 

Apparently Amazon Prime has 15 million subscribers in the UK and the Premier League screenings (there's more to come on Boxing Day) has apparently led to many thousands more signing up. If those figures are true then more people have access to Amazon Music (which as a paying subscriber service means streams are weighted higher) than are paying subcribers to Spotify or Apple Music.

 

Just to add, when you access Amazon Music through the app, at least on a computer, the first track on the first playlist that displays is 'River' by Ellie Goulding... 'Happy Christmas (War Is Over)' by John Legend is also there though it's track 9.

 

I don't know what % of people who are Prime members actually use their membership to stream music - I didn't even know I could until after I'd signed up to Amazon Prime - but it would only take a relatively small % of all Prime subscribers to stream music to have some effect on the charts, especially when a track is exclusive to Amazon.

To me the difference chart between Katy Perry amazon original last year and Ellie this year is crazy, do so many people realised they have amazon prime music, it needs to be more to

 

Plus did you notice that on the top songs listened some tracks do not appear at all like Wham or Leona original version of One more sleep, why they have this glitch wtf, not even in their most listened profile page appear

Edited December 9, 20196 yr by pes

Really didn't expect to see ellie so high but good on her, I thought harry styles would be higher.

I can't for the life of me understand Robbie's album position on Amazon's sales chart. He's still only at 7 after last night's show, up from 10 and Rod's still No.1. Robbie should be much higher.

Edited December 9, 20196 yr by Crazy Chris-tmas

Since we are all talking about River, can I just say that I love Mark Feehily (from Weslife) version of the song.

Its on Spotify. Check it out! I love his voice on it.

How is this thread already on 12 pages when we haven't even had Monday's mids yet!

How is this thread already on 12 pages when we haven't even had Monday's mids yet!

 

Chart rigging.

How is this thread already on 12 pages when we haven't even had Monday's mids yet!

 

I was just thinking this is probably going to be the biggest FP thread in a long time! :D

 

P.S River is also on YouTube so that’s probably a massive help too.

Edited December 9, 20196 yr by gavindeejay

To think that this time last year, Ellie was struggling with Close to Me only peaking at #17 and now she could be the Xmas #1!!!

Ellie is definitely benefitting from extreme Amazon promotion with Alexa. I'm guessing anytime someone asks Alexa to play Holiday music, her song is the first one played.

 

Maybe a rule where Holiday tracks limited to one service wouldn't be eligible to chart should be done if in the future any other Amazon exclusives keep being #1 contenders simply from Amazon's humongous promotion.

How is this thread already on 12 pages when we haven't even had Monday's mids yet!

 

At least 5 or 6 of those pages comprise the live discussion on the first look chart so maybe just more ppl were free on the Sunday this time.

but a lot of people have posted that's not true

that when asking for Xmas songs, different ones are played and River is not the first

This Camila album has been handled really badly despite clearly having potential to capitalise off 'Señorita', just throwing out songs left right and centre and not focusing enough on any of them for them to really stick. Done even worse in the US where 'Liar' didn't even become the middling hit it managed to be here! It also doesn't help her case that most of the songs have been pretty bad/mediocre.

 

Liar could’ve been really huge, it had lots of potential but instead of focusing on promoting it, she started releasing random dull songs left and right, and it really hurt her promotion...

but a lot of people have posted that's not true

that when asking for Xmas songs, different ones are played and River is not the first

The song is only #17 on Amazon's sales chart despite being exclusively sold there, so clearly most of its activity is just Amazon recommending it to streamers. I'd be more likely to believe people went out their way to listen to it if it was also #1 on the Amazon Sales chart.

Ellie Goulding: blocks Mariah from #1 on the chart of 27/12/2019

 

Buzzjack: FUMING

 

Really this is just highlighting how ridiculous the charts are in how it treats playlist streams, and how they give an unfair advantage to the likes of AIWFCIY as well.

The charts are rigged every single week by playlist payola - the only difference this week is that it’s an exclusive so it’s more noticeable, move along - nothing to see here apart from the fact that even in the streaming era chart rigging is alive and well and easily achievable.

The song is only #17 on Amazon's sales chart despite being exclusively sold there, so clearly most of its activity is just Amazon recommending it to streamers. I'd be more likely to believe people went out their way to listen to it if it was also #1 on the Amazon Sales chart.

 

seriously I cannot see the connection

there is no correlation at all between iTunes and Apple Music

Edited December 9, 20196 yr by Bjork

seriously I cannot see the connection

who buys songs on Amazon?

 

This tbh - if iTunes are struggling then to get a ‘hit’ on Amazons download site must take about 5 sales which is why so many random songs end up being Top 5 on Amazon and nowhere to be seen in the official chart.

I hope Kylie live can start out with a good chart position when we see the midweek information later today.