Did everyone try the chicken? I thought the chicken was lovely.

:D

Gaslighting? Definitely not. This is merely a discussion about songs and how people react to them. Or at least it should be. I don’t understand why it’s become this heavy.

^ Jay's original post on the subject, for the record. I think it's pretty clear that it's Jay's own opinion and he was expressing his surprise that anyone could miss the beauty of the track (which is an opinion that's shared with a LOT of people! which naturally makes the dislike seem quite noticeable). There's no gaslighting, that's a VERY strong term to use

 

Yeah, both of you are being deliberately obtuse and singling out Jay's initial post (which I admittedly shouldn't have quoted, since indeed it was an opinion and a respectful one at that). It's these responses that I took exception to:

 

This has to be a joke!? You don't see the appeal of the Spice Girls but stan Little Mix? Make it make sense

The point being made is that someone stanning Little Mix who have strong powerful 'girl power' anthems and are full of personality but then says Spice Girls do nothing for them is incredibly ironic because let's face it Spice Girls are THE prototype for that kind of girl band.

No offence but imagine stanning Reggaeton Lento and hating Viva Forever

Ah I see you like basic... fair enough you never had a chance you poor poor thing :cry:

My comment was referring to Defaze "not seeing the appeal" in the Spice Girls music when they like Little Mix so much, nobody has said that they have to stan them or that it's frowned upon not to.

 

It is a really bizarre and ironic thing to say when the Spice Girls paved the way for Little Mix's sound and image, and are idolized by them. If you're going to make a bold statement on a forum full of people, you should be ready for the response and not cry "opinion police"

 

You appear to be taking this seriously though when all people did was question your reasons (or lack thereof)

This without any context but italics for emphasis is a bold statement from a Little Mix fan. If it wasn't, then there wouldn't be so many posters asking why?

 

Like, c'mon:

 

*shares opinion*

 

*gets ridiculed, called basic and have said opinion discredited because of the acts I enjoy*

 

*retaliates*

 

'we're just sharing our opinion no need to get so serious!'

 

That's... literally gaslighting? But screaam at you getting sanctimonious at the phrase 'gaslighting' being banded about when the resident forum cockroach 'Meekul' (or whatever f***ed alias he's assumed) has been allowed to spout incessant bile for 7 years without repercussions. That's where we draw the line is it?

None of these are "discussion" comments, I so disagree with the idea people were trying to ignite some healthy discussion. They're snobbish replies to the idea that Defaze was in some way stupid for not caring about a Spice Girls song and loving a Little Mix song. The latter really IS policing opinions and being extremely condescending, totally against the spirit of the competition.

 

I'm really over seeing these kind of "Ariana would've been out if people didn't vote for the names" type of comments which also come back to this idea that people's opinions can't POSSIBLY be real because they don't match your own opinion. Please can we all just respect other people's opinions and stop this elitism? It's not fun. If you want to discuss people's opinions, just quote them with a sense of kindness and diplomacy (as I think Jay did, it just came amongst a barrage of other accusatory posts so I think ideas of gaslighting on that front are a little bit jumping the gun).

I wish I had you way with words :cry: :wub:

Yeah, both of you are being deliberately obtuse and singling out Jay's initial post (which I admittedly shouldn't have quoted, since indeed it was an opinion and a respectful one at that). It's these responses that I took exception to:

Like, c'mon:

 

*shares opinion*

 

*gets ridiculed, called basic and have said opinion discredited because of the acts I enjoy*

 

*retaliates*

 

'we're just sharing our opinion no need to get so serious!'

 

That's... literally gaslighting? But screaam at you getting sanctimonious at the phrase 'gaslighting' being banded about when the resident forum cockroach 'Meekul' (or whatever f***ed alias he's assumed) has been allowed to spout incessant bile for 7 years without repercussions. That's where we draw the line is it?

I'm well aware of those posts and I agree, I think they went too far. I even mentioned it in my previous post - we can do better than resort to snobbery. We can debate opinions without resorting to that. My post simply took issue with the accusation you made towards Jay, and I'm glad you've cleared up that quoting his post was a mistake.

 

I don't appreciate your final paragraph though. I've been extremely proactive in management against the constant tirade of anti-Little Mix posts from said member, including issuing warnings, and I was the one who created an entirely separate user group to ban him from the Little Mix forum entirely. It's a very unfair remark to be made because there HAVE been repercussions even if they're perhaps not completely obvious to you right now.

That's... literally gaslighting? But screaam at you getting sanctimonious at the phrase 'gaslighting' being banded about when the resident forum cockroach 'Meekul' (or whatever f***ed alias he's assumed) has been allowed to spout incessant bile for 7 years without repercussions. That's where we draw the line is it?

Regardless of the past I just feel it’s not cute to lay into a poster who isn’t even here to defend himself.

 

I know I’m pretty irrelevant in this conversation but since you quoted my post as an example of ‘gaslighting’, I’ll say my post really wasn’t meant to be mean or mocking. I say things like ‘imagine stanning x over x’ all the time. But I haven’t really said anything here I guess so I’ll leave it there

Edited May 30, 20205 yr by Andrew.

I'm well aware of those posts and I agree, I think they went too far. I even mentioned it in my previous post - we can do better than resort to snobbery. We can debate opinions without resorting to that. My post simply took issue with the accusation you made towards Jay, and I'm glad you've cleared up that quoting his post was a mistake.

 

I don't appreciate your final paragraph though. I've been extremely proactive in management against the constant tirade of anti-Little Mix posts from said member, including issuing warnings, and I was the one who created an entirely separate user group to ban him from the Little Mix forum entirely. It's a very unfair remark to be made because there HAVE been repercussions even if they're perhaps not completely obvious to you right now.

 

That’s all very well and good, and I certainly appreciate not having him clog up the Little Mix threads, but he still spams every other topic forum-wide even when they’re not relevant to the discussion. It’s exhausting and the sole reason I don’t venture out the LM AF anymore. If it's a 'constant tirade' like you said, and it's so demanding to keep him in check... just ban him? Any other forum would’ve dispatched of him years ago.

 

 

Regardless of the past I just feel it’s not cute to lay into a poster who isn’t even here to defend himself.

 

I know I’m pretty irrelevant in this conversation but since you quoted my post as an example of ‘gaslighting’, I’ll say my post really wasn’t meant to be mean or mocking. I say things like ‘imagine stanning x over x’ all the time. But I haven’t really said anything here I guess so I’ll leave it there

 

Know what I don’t find cute? Paragraphs of unhinged rambling and unbridled misogyny at every turn. :):) Besides, his absence is entirely self-imposed because of some maniacal crusade against ‘salty mixers’, so I think I’ll sleep easy tonight. :rolleyes:

Britney Spears - Everytime

Katy Perry - Wide Awake

Kylie Minogue - The One

Lady Gaga - Alejandro

LittlMadonna - La Isla Bonita

P!nk - f***in Perfect

Spice Girls - Viva Forever

 

THis is a very strong round, there were ten songs I loved but had to eliminate Dua, Rihanna and Little Mix out of my list :(

They got their pitchforks and proof

Their receipts and reasons

They’re burning all the witches, even if you aren’t one

1. Lady Gaga - Alejandro

2. Madonna - La Isla Bonita

3. Rihanna - Rehab

4. Britney Spears - Everytime

5. Kylie Minogue - The One

^ My clear favourites (and I love that 'Rehab' is a highlight for enough other people to have it submitted here :wub:)

 

6. CNCO & Little Mix - Reggaetón Lento

7. Spice Girls - Viva Forever

8. Taylor Swift - Delicate

☁️9. Katy Perry - Wide Awake

10. P!nk - F**kin' Perfect

11. Dua Lipa - IDGAF

^ I really like these and they're very close together; sad I don't have room for 'Delicate'

 

12. Ariana Grande - breathin (I like it but have never felt strongly about it, which in this round is enough to leave it stuck at 2nd last)

 

13. Zara Larsson - Don't Let Me Be Yours (clearly out of its league here lol, RIP Zara)

 

Dua Lipa - IDGAF

Little Mix - Reggaetón Lento (w/ CNCO)

Madonna - La Isla Bonita

P!nk - f***in Perfect

Rihanna - Rehab

Taylor Swift - Delicate

Zara Larsson - Don’t Let Me Be Yours

 

 

Difficult choice ....

1 Lady Gaga - Alejandro

2 Dua Lipa - IDGAF

3 Katy Perry - Wide Awake

4 Britney Spears - Everytime

5 Rihanna - Rehab

6 Spice Girls - Viva Forever

7 Madonna - La Isla Bonita

 

8 Taylor Swift - Delicate

9 Kylie Minogue - The One

10 Ariana Grande - breathin'

11 Zara Larsson - Don’t Let Me Be Yours

12 Little Mix - Reggaetón Lento (w/ CNCO)

13 P!nk - f***in Perfect

 

no songs I dislike! and soz Zara, I did vote for you in all 7 previous rounds! (just Dua & Rihanna with 8/8 now)

Michael would have loved this discussion.

 

And yes, I think Joseph has done above and beyond to help shield the Little Mix forum from the abuse. It’s more than previous mgmt ever did when he had his tirades against Pink. By the way guys, you can vote for Pink. Please vote for Pink.

 

 

Spice Girls - Viva Forever

Madonna - La Isla Bonita

Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Ariana Grande - breathin'

Kylie Minogue - The One

Katy Perry - Wide Awake

Dua Lipa - IDGAF

 

Very strong list this time, Viva Forever is my favourite song of all time and means so much to me :wub:

La Isla Bonita was #1 on the day i was born and i have a strong connection with it.

Ariana Grande - breathin'

Britney Spears - Everytime

Kylie Minogue - The One

Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Madonna - La Isla Bonita

P!nk - F***in Perfect

Spice Girls - Viva Forever

 

 

At last a round I can partake in again :P

 

Ariana Grande - breathin'

Britney Spears - Everytime

Dua Lipa - IDGAF

Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Madonna - La Isla Bonita

P!nk - f***in Perfect

Rihanna - Rehab

I apologise if you felt I was ridiculing you Defaze with the Saturdays comment, I was only joking and thought the emoji made that clear, this was obviously not the case so I apologise for that. I actually like The Saturdays myself just so you know, and I love Little Mix I think they are the best girl band since Girls Aloud and Sugababes, and one of the most talented girl bands ever. I wouldn’t want anyone to think that I thought their opinions were invalid. In regards to the song comparisons I was simply stating my own opinion. Doesn’t make yours wrong, just wrong to me personally. Again with the comment about not being able to understand people’s disdain for Spice Girls when they like other girl bands that are inspired by them that’s just my personal opinion I apologise if I made you feel that you weren’t allowed to disagree. I’m not a confrontational person the comments are all very much intended with a shade of humour obviously that doesn’t always come across of forums like these. X

None of these are "discussion" comments, I so disagree with the idea people were trying to ignite some healthy discussion. They're snobbish replies to the idea that Defaze was in some way stupid for not caring about a Spice Girls song and loving a Little Mix song. The latter really IS policing opinions and being extremely condescending, totally against the spirit of the competition.

 

I'm really over seeing these kind of "Ariana would've been out if people didn't vote for the names" type of comments which also come back to this idea that people's opinions can't POSSIBLY be real because they don't match your own opinion. Please can we all just respect other people's opinions and stop this elitism? It's not fun. If you want to discuss people's opinions, just quote them with a sense of kindness and diplomacy (as I think Jay did, it just came amongst a barrage of other accusatory posts so I think ideas of gaslighting on that front are a little bit jumping the gun).

They questioned the appeal of the Spice Girls discography, it was not just an opinion on a song !1! The Spice Girls and Little Mix both make girl band pop music, more context would have went a long way and I don't think people having an opinion on this make them snobs or elitists at all.

Ariana Grande - breathin'

Britney Spears - Everytime

Kylie Minogue - The One

Lady Gaga - Alejandro

Madonna - La Isla Bonita

Spice Girls - Viva Forever

Taylor Swift - Delicate

 

What a round :wub:

Honestly, I am appalled, heartbroken and so disappointed at the attitudes of some of the posters on this site. If someone doesn't like a song you do not come for them. They are entitled to their opinions!

 

 

Ed of. :cry:

Honestly, I am appalled, heartbroken and so disappointed at the attitudes of some of the posters on this site. If someone doesn't like a song you do not come for them. They are entitled to their opinions!

Ed of. :cry:

 

It’s even more alarming given this is just a game and not really that important in the big scheme of things. It’s just so unnecessary to be offended and critical because someone didn’t choose a song you like.