I broadly agree with her and I think it's good that she's challenging the the unwritten rule of parasocial obligation and setting boundaries etc, I just think she often comes across like an insufferable knob. Particularly in that clip where she's filming herself outside the restaurant and all like "omg they're following me"

I still love her and her music though, maybe for the time being she'll be having her breakfast "hot to go".

This has been way out of proportion and I agree with Lindsey.

It's absolutely WILD that KNOWN abusers are still allowed to perform freely in Brazil (Chr*s B*own was there as recently as 2024 for example) but Chappell isn't due to something a security guard did (who wasn't even HER security guard)?!?? MAKE IT MAKE SENSE?!

I always feel bad for celebrities when they're hounded by paparazzi and the public (ESPECIALLY the former - but I am a Britney fan and grew up in the era of Princess Di...). That part is NOT and SHOULD NOT be their job. They should be allowed to freely go out in public on their time off and do whatever they want without being hounded/chased down. If they yell/get confrontational because people have decided to interrupt them during the little time they actually get off, that is on the person going up to them imo. Have some respect and give them the space they need to wind down from their jobs.

I can't remember where I saw it (maybe Tik Tok?) but I saw that the wife has changed her story a couple of times/they don't match up? Icr. I'll try find it.

Here are a few Tik Toks I agree with (that word things a lot better than I can)

These theories about her being a victim of a smear campaign are pretty interesting:

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRxWWsKx/

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRx7NMKR/

This one in relation to the paparazzi stuff (which Zara Larsson has reposted):

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRxWW9hH/

And this one:

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRxWcaYG/

I’m struggling to buy into the fooballers side of it all… lol.

It's been blown out of proportions for sure and sorry that I don't have anything constructive to give, but at least it got us few memes on internet that I am living for it

Edited Wednesday at 04:374 days by Addy!

Excuse the Daily Mail story but very much worth posting given Chappell's side of the story.

9 hours ago, 777666jason said:

Your a public figure in a public place its not illegal for the public to take pictures you have to sick it up

Yes she's working in the public eye but she's still a normal person who should be entitled to privacy and able to enforce boundaries on things she's not comfortable with, just as any of the rest of us would. How would you like to be constantly followed, hounded, photographed, asked for things etc when you're just trying to do normal everyday things?

Plus, Chappell doing this is making life easier for other celebrities, just look at how much better the paparazzi have been treating them on red carpets since she told one of them off 😅

Also the Paris video wasn't of fans, it was paparazzi hounding her as she was trying to go back to her hotel, she's already asked them to leave her alone multiple times before she started filming so 🤷🏼‍♀️

This feels like it’s blown out of proportion. What didn’t security guard even say? Was it ‘please don’t disturb Chappell’? Or did he genuinely threaten a child? I know what I think is most likely.

Chappell has set her boundaries, try and respect them. People have become so entitled to access to celebrities, it’s actually quite worrying. It’s not that she doesn’t care about her fans, it’s that it’s her day off. It’s not like she’s never been clear about this.

A lame comparison I know, but I’m a teacher in a school with a thousand students in it. I often have kids shouting for my attention when I’m out and about. They don’t mean harm, but I’d rather they didn’t and I will share that with them at an appropriate moment. Some also spot me and leave me alone. One boy told me yesterday he saw me on Sunday but didn’t want to disturb me because it’s my day off. A very respectful attitude.

Why should being a celebrity be any different? They get recognised more but people should also recognise and respect boundaries. Just because one celebrity lets you approach them, don’t assume they all will. They don’t owe you anything. Yes, you may have spent time and money on them but they produced the art you enjoy in the first place. That is what they gave you for you fandom.

If you think it’s a ‘bad look’ then just move on and don’t follow her anymore. That’s up to you. But we don’t really need a storm in a teacup to discredit her or any criticism of her general position.

Some of the initial posts in here remind me of this Homer Simpson quote from about 30 years ago.

‘If celebrities didn't want people pawing through their garbage and saying they're gay, they shouldn't have tried to express themselves creatively.’

That was supposed to be a gag, but some seem to genuinely believe it.

Edited Wednesday at 09:264 days by T Boy

41 minutes ago, Lindsey. said:

Yes she's working in the public eye but she's still a normal person who should be entitled to privacy and able to enforce boundaries on things she's not comfortable with, just as any of the rest of us would. How would you like to be constantly followed, hounded, photographed, asked for things etc when you're just trying to do normal everyday things?

Plus, Chappell doing this is making life easier for other celebrities, just look at how much better the paparazzi have been treating them on red carpets since she told one of them off 😅

Also the Paris video wasn't of fans, it was paparazzi hounding her as she was trying to go back to her hotel, she's already asked them to leave her alone multiple times before she started filming so 🤷🏼‍♀️

There's a difference between being snapped out in public space and being constantly followed an as someone else has put the Paris incident seems like she actually escalated the situation, and up to now not seen any stories of being constantly followed by the same person,

Its been obvious for years thats fame the paparazzi comes with thw territory you cant have your cake and eat it and not have the paparazzi

Edited Wednesday at 10:253 days by 777666jason

This entire thing is making me feel insane

The internet would not have survived Björk and the reporter. Until Chappell is actually drop-kicking children or her fans, I will never care. I will always salute any girlie with the audacity to be openly anti parasocial standom and to set boundaries in a world where people feel celebrities belong to them. I love an unapologetic messy diva. Work!

When right wing social media accounts (and frankly, platforms) are frothing at the mouth, I tend to take a step back and assess how much this actually matters and how much of it is even shaped in reality x

It’s easy to talk about “setting boundaries” when you have security around you. Do ordinary people have that kind of protection? Not really.

What bothers me is the disconnect.

Speaking from a place of privilege while framing it as if it applies universally. She has always come across as blunt and, at times, inconsiderate. In this situation as well, the approach felt careless: addressing a sensitive topic while lying in bed, without showing much awareness of how it might affect the child involved.

To me, it doesn’t read as strength or composure, but rather as a lack of emotional awareness. Not exactly a “diva” but perhaps more of a drama queen.

She has no divine right to privacy in a public setting, that's just the way it is and the law backs that up. By the same token she's entirely permitted to also film/interact with whomever for whatever purpose that would serve. Additionally "harassment" is legally defined as unwanted conduct that occurs at least twice which presumably wasn't the case in this scenario in question. And she's done herself no favours at all by outright lying about having no connection to the security guard, who really is the biggest problem here. A lot of security guards have massive egos from an assumed position of power so I think this is just an unfortunate case however the fact it's linked to Roan is perhaps less surprising.

27 minutes ago, Nine And ¾ said:

It’s easy to talk about “setting boundaries” when you have security around you. Do ordinary people have that kind of protection? Not really.

What bothers me is the disconnect.

Speaking from a place of privilege while framing it as if it applies universally. She has always come across as blunt and, at times, inconsiderate. In this situation as well, the approach felt careless: addressing a sensitive topic while lying in bed, without showing much awareness of how it might affect the child involved.

To me, it doesn’t read as strength or composure, but rather as a lack of emotional awareness. Not exactly a “diva” but perhaps more of a drama queen.

Most normal people don’t have to set those kind of boundaries though because people don’t know who they are or want to speak to them when they’re not working.

Why is being respectful of someone’s wishes so frowned upon by some on here?

1 hour ago, 777666jason said:

There's a difference between being snapped out in public space and being constantly followed an as someone else has put the Paris incident seems like she actually escalated the situation, and up to now not seen any stories of being constantly followed by the same person,

Its been obvious for years thats fame the paparazzi comes with thw territory you cant have your cake and eat it and not have the paparazzi

That's the issue though, it shouldn't come with the territory

34 minutes ago, Nine And ¾ said:

Not exactly a “diva” but perhaps more of a drama queen.

I love an unapologetic, openly queer, pro-Palestine, actual money-where-her-mouth-is trans advocate, Casey Wasserman drop-kicking, drama queen!

less keen on most of the music hehe x

There is indeed no right to privacy in public spaces, but it still doesn’t give ANYBODY the right to just invade someones space, much less whilst they’re dining out trying to eat.

I’ve seen videos of people getting clocked/physically harmed because someone has been hounding them in public… so I’m genuinely surprised Chappell hasn’t “done a Bjork” and done the same in all honesty.

Honestly, I think people just want to tear Chappell down, the smear campaign theory makes a lot of sense.

There's almost nothing people haven't tried, aside from the "she's a bitch" "she's mean to fans" "she's too blunt" all because people don't like being told no, I've seen things like she's not actually a lesbian, she's exploiting queer people, she wasn't actually poor before she blew up, she doesn't write her own music, she hates kids and people who choose to have them (even before this incident)... It's endless. I really feel for her, all she wanted to do was make music and perform and use her platform to give back to her community but instead she has all of this complete bullshit to contend with as well.

I'm glad that some other people that are thinking the same as me here are commenting now because I was starting to wonder why it was seeming so inconceivable that someone would want to challenge attitudes towards celebrities.

Chappell has made it super clear that this is her job. I don't expect to have to work out of hours, and neither should she. Lola Young was cited in here, yes she took time out... But she has been very open in her drug usage (I wonder why that's so prevalent in celebrity culture... Could it be because it's a stressful job that you never get to switch off from maybe...?), and she needed to completely isolate herself from doing her job to recover from that. The fact that Chappell is challenging attitudes towards celebrity, rather than sitting back and allowing it to happen, is only a good thing.

And regarding her attitude towards these situations... Unless any of us have been celebrities, we don't know the toll it takes on the way you think when you're being constantly bothered and feeling like you have to portray a certain image at all times - I'd imagine (just like neurodivergent masking), it must be exhausting.

I understand people have different opinions... But, as people have mentioned in here, we've all seen what the impact fame (and especially the paparazzi) has had on the likes of Britney, Di, and countless others...

If anyone is happy with Chappell's very well publicised boundaries being overstepped:

1. I hope they don't have any boundaries of their own (which of course they do)

2. I would love to know how they would feel if people continually breach their boundaries. If they don't like it, what makes Chappell any different?

I'm getting more invested with this than I thought I would, but I'm still genuinely baffled at why this story has blown up quite so much (in the way it has) and people aren't accepting that regardless of fame/wealth/influence, people's limits should be respected... Speaking from experience of someone who has experienced similar attitudes (just because my hair is different to yours, doesn't mean you can touch it without asking 🙄 vs just because you've seen me on TV, doesn't mean I'm always accessible to you 🙄)

Anyway, I've rambled lol

The Daily Mail said she was a liar... so explain this?

There's nothing more annoying than entitled fans claiming their faves are 'rude' for not acknowledging them or posing for selfies/signing autographs in public places.

Celebrities are human beings too and if they have time off from work and are trying to enjoy a day with their family, a breakfast in a hotel, a walk in a park etc then they should be allowed to in peace without fans coming up to them and invading their privacy. I know it's part of the deal with being famous that stuff like this will always happen but we need to stop encouraging it and start supporting celebrities who set boundaries and call out these toxic parasocial relationships.

I literally just saw something about two Scottish footballers being called out and called ignorant because they didn't stop for a young fan either. It's so entitled to think that because you buy a ticket to support someone or buy their CD or go see their movie or whatever that this person 'owes' you something in return. While it's true that these people wouldn't be where they are without their fans, stuff like Meet and Greets or Comic Con or red carpets or competitions are professional ways to interact with them and if someone ignores you in public you need to accept it and remember that these people probably get fans swarming them all day every day no matter where they go or what they do and if someone does greet you with a smile and poses with you then it's something to be grateful for and not something you were owed anyway.

Saying that though, if it really is impacting Roan and she can't handle it then she really should get out of the industry. Things aren't going to change. You cannot be a successful and popular musician and still have your privacy in public.

Edited Wednesday at 11:493 days by shadow2009

I think now would be a great time to make a Chappell Roan artist forum tbh