How long would this have spent at number one (in contrast the the zero weeks it actually managed) if 2018 chart rules and technology prevailed at the time?

 

Yeah you can do that on a computer but you can't skip songs on playlists on the mobile app

That must be why I'm always confused when people say you can't skip songs on free Spotify :lol:

Um what?! This seems like a terrible, terrible idea. Here comes a rant (although there is a chance I'm mis-interpreting this, but I think the idea of counting streams only from channels run by major record labels and not by "normal" people is awful):

 

This unofficial lyric video of Dua Lipa - New Rules has 77 million views:

This trap remix if New Rules has 46 million views:

Is Dua Lipa or the record label actually earning any money from the streams of a fan-made lyric video or trap remix though? The reason only streams from official outlets are going to be counted is because those are what generate revenue. I suspect the major labels have done this to encourage stans to stream their official videos instead of fan-made ones.

 

Besides, having a song chart because it was used as background music in a user-made video would really call into question the credibility of the chart. Just look at all the criticism Billboard got when 'Harlem Shake' got to #1 off the back of user-made 30 second clips and when Soko went top ten when pretty much no one was watching the video for the song.

 

It's not like the fake cover versions that people were actually buying (and still I'm sure even some of those got deemed chart ineligible).

 

Also it seems like self-released songs will be counted. In the video streaming chart a rapper by the name of K-Trap has a self-released song in at #68. It got uploaded to GRM Daily rather than his own channel, so I'm not sure about what happens if you upload it yourself, but it should mean the likes of Selected are also counted as official outlets.

I love the official accounts thing. It will prevent a Harlem Shake type thing happening. Wasn't that #1 on BBH100 due to so many viral videos of that challenge?

Seems bizarre to do this AFTER streaming. Youtube was at its biggest and had its biggest impact pre-streaming and spotify etc. really taking off. Feels like the ship has sailed on this a little.

 

Intrigued to see the results, but it does feel once again like manipulating EVEN FURTHER than they already do the chart in order to twist it into the kind of chart that will make for an interesting and varied radio show as opposed to a chart that says anything about what the most popular song or biggest selling song in the country actually is.

 

Seems like the equivalent of in the old days them only deciding arbitrarily that sales on a Monday, Tuesday and Friday counted or something of that kind.

@jonjo

 

yep it was and with some of the biggest 'streaming' figures of all time. think its record only just got beaten by Drake 'God's Plan' this year.

Seems bizarre to do this AFTER streaming. Youtube was at its biggest and had its biggest impact pre-streaming and spotify etc. really taking off. Feels like the ship has sailed on this a little.

 

Source? I don't think this is true at all, it seems to be much easier for songs to get to 1 billion plays on YouTube now than ever before for example.

Meh. I've pretty much stopped following the Official Chart now so this news doesn't disappoint me or make me elated but I'm not surprised it's happened. Airplay will be the next thing to be added as has been previously mentioned in the thread.

I love the new rules. They make a lot of sense, particularly with free users not being able to skip on mobiles.

This is great news, hopefully we’ll see some changes in the chart soon as a result of it. Maybe this will encourage more artists (UK based anyway) to create more music/lyric videos too.

 

Now all we need is airplay to count ;)

 

This is an interesting addition to the chart. I'm glad they are making some steps to make the chart about premium subscription streaming rather than including free streams. However they should just remove them all imho, but I guess this might be them testing the waters first before making further changes down the line.

 

Video streaming I've thought should have been included for a long time so I'm quite happy about that. Finally bringing the ratio back to 1:100 makes so much sense as they brought in 1:150 to speed things up prior to ACR.

 

Source? I don't think this is true at all, it seems to be much easier for songs to get to 1 billion plays on YouTube now than ever before for example.

There is a slight argument to be made that YouTube peaked as a Google search term about 4 years ago, and no doubt a big chunk of those searches are just people who don't know how to type .com in an address bar. However, according to alexa, YouTube is currently the 2nd most visited website behind only Google, so it's definitely a big deal.

 

I hear that there have already been 20 indyyyy bands that have literally metamorphosed into CGI animals and scary urban artists since the announcement of this news.

but I still don't understand,

will they count official YT streams? or only streams thru the new YT stream service?

so video stream from apple music, tidal counted as 100:1 or 600:1?

I think ratio overall could be bolder like free being 1,000:1 considering the poor royalty.

same goes to youtube which is worse than spotify free.

Well at least this should encourage artists/labels to invest more in decent videos again.

 

Definitely approve of the difference between premium and free streams, though it won’t make figuring out total sales any easier.

but I still don't understand,

will they count official YT streams? or only streams thru the new YT stream service?

they will count official video from artist at 600:1 ratio

youtube music(audio) will be counted too.

I love the official accounts thing. It will prevent a Harlem Shake type thing happening. Wasn't that #1 on BBH100 due to so many viral videos of that challenge?

High streams, high sales at the peak of the meme’s relevance. Once those died down it couldn’t stay afloat due to the shitty amount of radio airplay it got. One can argue that Bad & Boujee suffered the same fate but it did well in another format (This Is America seems to be following this trend as well).

Surprisingly I approve of the changes. Free-streams needs to weighted less than paid-for streams because it generates less income and I'm hoping it will make the chart less stale from all those lazy Spotify chart-streamers, or distorted from heavily-weighted urban acts on streaming vs sales. I suspect they listen for free as I don't see anything like a willingness to pay for product, but pop acts still do well on both. I don't stream but I do watch YouTube videos, so I start to personally get more of a say (in a very minor way) apart from buying downloads which I still do weekly - after which point I don't affect the charts once I've bought it.

Do we think it’s more likely that the split in paid for and free streams ratios will increase or decrease the impact streaming has on that chart? It’ll come down to how many people pay for the streaming because if it’s lower than expected streaming may have less impact

Paid-for-streams will be at 100:1 (so if you view it with a premium account on ANY service, then it'll be worth more)

 

Free-streams from any of these services (i.e. youtube.com - not their new service / spotify etc...) will be at 1:600

 

I assume "Free Trials" will be classed as paid for?