But can that be trusted? Im not sure.

 

Yes.

 

https://www.timesnownews.com/international/...-at-zero/600388

https://www.endcoronavirus.org/countries

 

Congratulations to neighbouring IRELAND who now makes the 'Countries successfully beating Covid-19' list. Also shout out to Mongolia which has had ZERO deaths despite neighbouring China. Big respect!

 

Mongolia closed its border with China very early, plus it doesn't have that big a population of older people.

 

So according to this the US daily case numbers are starting to go down now a bit finally, so maybe they have peaked there now?

Mongolia closed its border with China very early, plus it doesn't have that big a population of older people.

 

So according to this the US daily case numbers are starting to go down now a bit finally, so maybe they have peaked there now?

It's very noticeable that the UK and US figures are falling far slower than they went up. Many other countries have a far more symmetrical curve.

Mongolia closed its border with China very early, plus it doesn't have that big a population of older people.

 

So according to this the US daily case numbers are starting to go down now a bit finally, so maybe they have peaked there now?

They re-opened too quickly. Plenty of states are seeing rises again, as well as some even daily records

Mongolia closed its border with China very early, plus it doesn't have that big a population of older people.

 

So according to this the US daily case numbers are starting to go down now a bit finally, so maybe they have peaked there now?

 

It certainly hasn't peaked in the US. Over half of US states are recording increases in the number of cases. In particular, Florida, Texas & California. I wouldn't be surprised to see Florida become the next epicentre of the pandemic in the US - especially as the lockdown is being rolled back across the US. Which doesn't make any sense given the increase in cases.

It's very noticeable that the UK and US figures are falling far slower than they went up. Many other countries have a far more symmetrical curve.

 

Cases or deaths? As it's clear as mud lots of countries are fiddling their reporting figures (see Spain for a classic example). Meanwhile our death figures aren't entirely accurate from a daily perspective due to reporting and timing lags.

Seems like South America is having huge issues atm

Seems like South America is having huge issues atm

 

It's the current epicentre. It's very worrying especially when the gaps between rich and poor are vene bigger in Latin America compared to Western Europe. I don't know how Brazil get out of their current predicament. Not sure what the border situations are, but it does not look good. I think thw more worrying aspect of the problem in Brazil, as if the President has anyway he's gonna to start some form of Dictatorship again.

Cases or deaths? As it's clear as mud lots of countries are fiddling their reporting figures (see Spain for a classic example). Meanwhile our death figures aren't entirely accurate from a daily perspective due to reporting and timing lags.

Yes, glad someone else has picked up on the curious case of Spain. In all honesty, I don’t trust any country’s COVID figures - whether it’s the UK, Germany, Russia or whoever. Best to take it all with a pinch of salt as 90% of national leaders are tossers who’ll happily fiddle figures to paint themselves in a good light :,)

Yes, glad someone else has picked up on the curious case of Spain. In all honesty, I don’t trust any country’s COVID figures - whether it’s the UK, Germany, Russia or whoever. Best to take it all with a pinch of salt as 90% of national leaders are tossers who’ll happily fiddle figures to paint themselves in a good light :,)

 

That's also part of the problem, it's difficult to compare like for like as there are so much many countries are hiding (and we probably have an extra 10,000-20,000 deaths that were Covid related as well). We tried to pull the wool over the eyes with figures too in the early days. It's useful as a guide but the data is also pretty useless when there is no clear and consistent reporting mechanism.

 

Be interested to hear people's thoughts on the 2m rule- seems like the Chancellor and the back benchers are pushing for it to be reduced, but the Scientists want it kept at 2m for the time being. There have also been a few murmors of resignations from Vallance and Whitty if that's the case.

 

My view is I totally agree for the hospitality/leisure industry to become viable the 2m rule needs to be reduced. BUT I'd only support it if the scientists agreed. It's going to happen at some point, but I'd much rather the hospitality industry trial out a 3-4 week period at 2m and then cut it to 1.5/1m rather than deciding to implement on 4th July.

It’s always been 1,5m here!

 

 

 

The state authorities have quarantined an entire apartment block For 14 days over a corona outbreak. Our officials seem to have learned a few things from the SE Asian response and taking this tactic rather than locking down a whole district

My view on 2 M is that it is there to ensure people stay at least 1 M apart because people generally underestimate how much space they are leaving between them, but I would imagine it makes sense - for the reasons you've mentioned Rooney- to relax the rules once we have a proper track & trace programme in place and we have mandatory face covering in enclosed public spaces.

My view on 2 M is that it is there to ensure people stay at least 1 M apart because people generally underestimate how much space they are leaving between them, but I would imagine it makes sense - for the reasons you've mentioned Rooney- to relax the rules once we have a proper track & trace programme in place and we have mandatory face covering in enclosed public spaces.

 

I get the impression the Government is stalling, trying to keep the lobbyists happening with a review which will last "a few weeks" which conveniently gets us to 4th July. Looking at some of the shops today, the Government would be absolutely stupid to go-live in leisure/hospitality with 1m social distancing. I mean, you wouldn't put it past them but I don't think it will change at least for a couple of weeks after hospitality is allowed to re-open.

Germany launched its tracing app today. Do we have more details on when ours goes live here?

 

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The empathy really radiated here — either way, we're unfortunately back up to 233 deaths reported today. Still, a further decline from last week, but quite the plateau.

Ugh I hate the war terminology constantly being used. We’re not winning anything. 41,969 deaths is not in any shape a victory.

 

I see Beijing have closed schools.

I sadly think it's only a matter of time for a second wave and restrictions come into place again, possibly even stricter :( Hopefully not for a while though so we can enjoy the easing of the restrictions for however little amount of time that may be.

I can’t see our government wanting to lock us back down even if they need to.

I sadly think it's only a matter of time for a second wave and restrictions come into place again, possibly even stricter :( Hopefully not for a while though so we can enjoy the easing of the restrictions for however little amount of time that may be.

 

There won't be a 2nd full lockdown across the country. If there is a 2nd wave, there will be a economy vs health trade-off and the economy will win. Another lockdown would cripple the country. Pretty much every country in the world has said they won't be locking down again. It's why we only have one chance at this and why we would tred pretty lightly imo.

 

Deaths are still high, but it's also a false narrative as a bulk of these will have been over the weekend. I'm not sure why after 3 months there are still reporting lags and deaths being found here and there from weeks gone by.

I sadly think it's only a matter of time for a second wave and restrictions come into place again, possibly even stricter :( Hopefully not for a while though so we can enjoy the easing of the restrictions for however little amount of time that may be.

 

Is this the second wave that was coming after Easter, VE Day, end of May bank holiday and all the trips to the beach?

Nah, those kept the 1st wave afloat

 

Edit: Also it was a RISK of a spike in new cases, but it seems like the good weather is playing a role as the BLM protest in Amsterdam also didnt cause a lot of new infections, which was feared.

 

But we do not know enough yet to be 100% sure about how this virus spreads in whichever circumstances. Thats why every risk is a scare at the same time. Just look at the recent flare up in Beijing