No man lived who never made a mistake. I mis-read the pop-up okay. Is it a hanging offence?

 

It will be when Priti Patel gets her way.

A friend of mine just told me their entire household has tested positive, with their grandfather now in hospital. Awful.

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Quite a bit more than that — and another 50k+ cases. I would love to be wrong and for things to make a quick turnaround.

 

Apparently those numbers don’t include Wales or Northern Ireland who have not reported today.

All London primary schools will stayed closed now.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55511169

 

Previously ~10 London boroughs were expected to open.

I wouldn’t be too surprised if this became extended to the rest of England within a week.

The Met. has said it's officers busted and broke up 58 illegal parties as thousands broke Covid Tier 4 rules. Dozens more were thought to have taken place with no-one reporting them. Many groups of young people standing together on streets were dispersed too. How stupid they are. Am not going out much at all now and haven't been shopping since 24th Dec.

 

Rumours of a Tier 5 being introduced soon just for London with stricter rules even.

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https://twitter.com/i/status/1345006866829463552

 

"It was minimally affecting children in the first wave... we now have a whole ward of children here."

 

Laura Duffel, a matron in a London Hospital, tells Adrian Chiles about the Covid situation in hospitals."

 

A Covid nurse told Adrian Chiles on 5 Live this afternoon that the London hospital where she works has a whole ward full of children and many in their 20's and 30's with no underlying health condition.

 

Other London hospitals and The Telegraph are saying the same.

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I'm a little confused with the changes to the vaccination rollout. What is the explanation? What am I missing?

the changes seem to have been made by someone with absolutely NO brain activity at all.

 

Pfizer/BioNTech have both said, extremely publicly and on record, that the UK Gov strategy is absolutely against their guidelines because it wasn't tested on such a large gap and there is no guarantee it will even work and they think the UK gov is being stupid.

 

 

Imma stick with the EU, we may be slower but at least we aren't feeding anti-vax nonsense by chopping and changing the rules and going explicitly against usage instructions and mixing and matching jags that have not been tested together to ensure they don't cause an adverse reaction when mixed.

 

 

STUPID

Meanwhile, the more transmissible variant (R+0.7) is now dominant across the whole of the UK. Failure to act in mid-December has likely caused this, but instead the government decided to take cheap shots at Keir Starmer in PMQs and threaten councils with legal action for shutting schools as a precaution.

 

Risible.

 

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I'm a little confused with the changes to the vaccination rollout. What is the explanation? What am I missing?

I know various bodies were looking at whether it was possible to mix the vaccines but, as far as I know, no tests have been done. That makes the suggestion that the government plans to go ahead with it rather scary.

Yeh, I’m really concerned about the change in vaccine strategy. It does not seem to make sense in the long term and I fear we go back to square one in 3 months time where the lack of second vaccine being administered when it should have been means the first one has lost effect.

 

I just hope it’s questioned as soon as possible before it’s potentially left too late. Why do we have to be so inept at everything? It just seems like something they’ll say when it hasn’t worked that it’s easy to look back in hindsight and they didn’t know at the time.

Yeh, I’m really concerned about the change in vaccine strategy. It does not seem to make sense in the long term and I fear we go back to square one in 3 months time where the lack of second vaccine being administered when it should have been means the first one has lost effect.

 

I just hope it’s questioned as soon as possible before it’s potentially left too late. Why do we have to be so inept at everything? It just seems like something they’ll say when it hasn’t worked that it’s easy to look back in hindsight and they didn’t know at the time.

The mix and match strategy worries me even more. It seems almost to be an admission that there won’t be enough of the Pfizer vaccine in 12 weeks’ time so they’ll use the Oxford one instead and hope for the best.

Tom Jones has announced that he has had Covid and recovered at 80. Good news.

 

:cheeseblock: I can't!

The mix and match stratgey with the vaccines is potentially dangerous, but saying that we don't know about the effectiveness of mixing the vaccines is crazy when we don't even know how long immunity lasts with the first vaccination. We're all heading in to the unknown now. And protection won't just last 21 days. The short answer this is what Pfizer did their trials on to shorten the length. 21 days is not needed for maximim protection because nobody knows what the optiumum shot is for maximum protection yet.

 

Personally I think giving people one doss and then waiting 12 weeks is the right strategy currently. Looking at the numbers across the whole of the UK, this is going to be our only way out if it. Sure it might not save everyone but if we carry on at this rate the pandemic will not be over for a long time. Having some immunity is better than none, especially since the likelihood of having serious covid complications is minimal if you have had one jab.

The mix and match stratergy is just plain stupid. I can understand delaying the time between the first and second doses as you'll be able to get more people the first dose and have a larger amount of people with decent immunity which mathematically is better than half the amount of people with higher immunity from 2 doses.

 

I'm expecting another U-turn from the government though. It is unfair to announce this when thousands of people have been booked in already for the second dose of the Pfizer vaccine.

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I'm a little confused with the changes to the vaccination rollout. What is the explanation? What am I missing?

 

This is just bizarre and will surely lead to lack of confidence in the vaccination programme even if they don't go ahead with this approach?

 

If it's not available, there must be enough time in the window to wait for the correct dose to be available?!

Teacher's unions are calling for all primary schools to remain closed, not just those in London.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55511662

 

Expecting a last minute government U-turn tomorrow.

Teacher's unions are calling for all primary schools to remain closed, not just those in London.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55511662

 

Expecting a last minute government U-turn tomorrow.

 

Very likely — and then people can pretend this is thanks to wonderful opposition, rather than pressure from everyone but Labour.

Making masks compulsory in secondary schools (apart from those medically exempt) is being considered too. Schools should only use assembly halls/sports halls in schools more for teaching, there would be more space for pupils and teachers to try and socially distance. Of course that would require only a certain number of pupils being in a school at the one time which means staggered year groups by days.

 

As for the vaccine yes this government strategy is going to result in less people being confident in the vaccination program.

 

Also, mixing Pfizer for dose 1 and Oxford for dose 2 shouldn't be allowed until is is proven through testing that it is safe enough.

Brighton & Hove Council have written to Williamson to say they will be adopting remote learning for primary schools from Monday. It wil be interesting to see whether he accepts it or threatens them with legal action.