November 14, 20214 yr It's not surprising to see ATW so low. Sunday is usually very skewed towards songs that do well on Amazon/iTunes as there is a day of data missing from Apple Music/Spotify. Taylor isn't doing much on Amazon and isn't doing that well on iTunes. Given how well it's doing on Apple/Spotify, I expect it'll climb in tomorrow's midweeks. Glad to see Adele #1 with a decent lead on Ed. Hopefully her CBS special tonight will help indirectly boost her a bit in the UK. I don't believe there are any details for it airing in the UK though. I assume it won't air in the UK until after her ITV special has aired.
November 14, 20214 yr Surely the 2 version of ATW can't be combined? I know Amazon and sales have more weight in first look but 730k on Friday Spotify for ATW vs 184k for Cold Heart would surely be enough to push it ahead?
November 14, 20214 yr The update specifically listing it as '10 Minute Version' on the OCC website does make me think they're not combining it :') they obviously are combining the 2 versions of 'State Of Grace' so I really don't get why 'All Too Well' wouldn't be combined but whatever, OCC making stuff up as they go as per usual... (if they are indeed not combined then there must be a fair chance we end up having both the normal and 10 minute versions charting this week, given the normal version is ahead of 'Red' on Spotify now and only just behind on Apple)
November 14, 20214 yr If verse is added on a hit by ANOTHER artist --> combined If verse is added on a hit by the original artist ---> not combined It really doesn't make any sense :lol:
November 14, 20214 yr The regular version of All Too Well is her 2nd highest song on Spotify as well now so watch both version chart separately if they're not combined! (wonder if that would make OCC combine them to avoid confusion)
November 14, 20214 yr Be interesting to see if the USA special has any impact on her streaming here in the uk, I suspect it will
November 14, 20214 yr Regarding "All Too Well" being lower than expected, there are several possibilities. The first is that the two versions are not combined, and one of the reasons for that (mentioned on another music forum) is that the versions lengths differ more than 1 minute (which could be a problem for Hot 100 too). The second - most of the streams come from free accounts on spotify (ratio 1:600). For comparison, EOM sales are 125% higher than ATW (more than double).
November 14, 20214 yr Hopefully they’ll see sense and combine them if not by tomorrow but by the end of the week. Could have been some silly explication like they didn’t get chance to do the combined totals before the deadline to get the chart to Radio 1 or something like that.
November 14, 20214 yr Regarding "All Too Well" being lower than expected, there are several possibilities. The first is that the two versions are not combined, and one of the reasons for that (mentioned on another music forum) is that the versions lengths differ more than 1 minute (which could be a problem for Hot 100 too). The second - most of the streams come from free accounts on spotify (ratio 1:600). For comparison, EOM sales are 125% higher than ATW (more than double). Surely if the fact they’re different lengths, that would mean dance remixes could not be combined with the main track?
November 14, 20214 yr I'd be shocked if it's anything more than an oversight from the OCC that would mean the two versions aren't combined, because there's no real reason they shouldn't be! The length won't be a problem - Russ Millions' Body was 3:03 in its original form and 4:38 in the remix that boosted it to #1, and we know for sure that was combined. Hopefully they'll be combined come the next update!
November 14, 20214 yr If they do keep them separate, I hope they chart next/close to each other so it highlights how ridiculous it is. I would understand if it was a part 1/part 2 situation but this is just an extended version of the main album version.
November 14, 20214 yr It’s pretty shit how they are not combining the 2 versions (like was just said since the OCC are calling it the 10 minute version it’s almost certainly not been combined) they are practically still the same song just different versions so it doesn’t seem fair to not combine them. Maybe they will get combined before Friday for the final chart? Need to wait and see. Thank Everton for hosting again, good job!
November 14, 20214 yr No Sam Fender in the Top 20 :drama: Was expecting to see him around 16-17 today
November 14, 20214 yr My predictions: 1. Taylor with RED 2. AbBa 3. Fad Sheeran's 12 Cheese Slices 4. Rod Stewart 5. Spice Girls Spice
November 14, 20214 yr No Sam Fender in the Top 20 :drama: Was expecting to see him around 16-17 today Hopefully he will be there by Friday. If he's sitting just outside the Top 20 now then he has a decent shot, I imagine Little Mix, Juice Wrld and one of the Taylor tracks will probably have fallen out of that region by then.
November 14, 20214 yr It's not surprising to see ATW so low. Sunday is usually very skewed towards songs that do well on Amazon/iTunes as there is a day of data missing from Apple Music/Spotify. Taylor isn't doing much on Amazon and isn't doing that well on iTunes. Given how well it's doing on Apple/Spotify, I expect it'll climb in tomorrow's midweeks. Glad to see Adele #1 with a decent lead on Ed. Hopefully her CBS special tonight will help indirectly boost her a bit in the UK. I don't believe there are any details for it airing in the UK though. I assume it won't air in the UK until after her ITV special has aired. I doubt the CBS special will have much impact on her UK performance, the ITV special should give her a boost though.
November 14, 20214 yr You seriously need to grow up. Nothing I have said is troll-worthy. If anything, you’re the one behaving like a troll. Now go bother someone else with your ample immaturity. As Taylor Swift said back in 2019 You Need To Calm Down.
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