Great to see the massive start for Sam Fender.

When you think of all the singles he released pre-Seventeen Going Under which didn't sniff the Top 40, the effect that song had on his chart career has been huge!!

Edited November 20, 20241 yr by ChrisJK

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Thanks!

guess Linkin Park could reach 40K on Friday, which is not half bad

Great to see the massive start for Sam Fender.

When you think of all the singles he released pre-Seventeen Going Under which didn't sniff the Top 40, the effect that song had on his chart career has been huge!!

 

A lot of his singles prior to 17 did got top 75 though so the fanbase was being cultivated.

How many Christmas songs will Jack be playing on Friday ?

 

Possibly 5.

Great to see the massive start for Sam Fender.

When you think of all the singles he released pre-Seventeen Going Under which didn't sniff the Top 40, the effect that song had on his chart career has been huge!!

 

A lot of his singles prior to 17 did got top 75 though so the fanbase was being cultivated.

 

This - SGU kicked off his chart success in terms of being a high charter but he’s had some big single sellers prior to SGU.

 

Will We Talk #43 (Platinum)

Hypersonic Missiles #48 (Platinum x2)

The Borders #59 (Gold)

Play God #89 (Gold)

Dead Boys #DNC (Silver)

That Sound #DNC (Silver)

All Is On My Side #DNC (Silver)

Odd, isn't it... I often see discussions on here about how it's not longevity that the GP sees but the peak positions... And that's exactly what I have done with Sam Fender.

 

I am a huge fan from Hypersonic Missiles single being on R1, but I have seen how he made the Top 75 but not Top 40. How long they stuck around and certainly their chart sales have gone over my head.

 

 

Sometimes they were midweek releases I think?

This - SGU kicked off his chart success in terms of being a high charter but he’s had some big single sellers prior to SGU.

Did they sell well prior to SGU though or did they start selling a lot more because of SGU? :unsure:

he had three songs certified already when SGU got released (1x Gold 2x Silver) so fairly reasonable success but clearly SGU helped a lot as I doubt Hypersonic Missiles would've gone from Gold to Plat 2x otherwise

Did they sell well prior to SGU though or did they start selling a lot more because of SGU? :unsure:

 

A number of certifications were prior to SGU being released:

 

"Hypersonic Missiles" was ceritifed Gold in February 2021

"Play God" silver in April 2020.

"Will We Talk" silver in March 2020.

 

"Dead Boys" & "That Sound" went silver in October 2021, with "We Will Talk" going gold then as well.

 

It's likely a lot of them would have racked up more certifications had SGU not happened, but obviously SGU has given his discography a bump/sped up the process.

Hypersonic Missiles was streamed massively in 2022 off the back of Seventeen Going Under's success. In fact it made the UK Spotify Year End top 200 and #155 in 2022 having been nowhere near on release in 2019, so I'd say a lot of its success is down to Seventeen Going Under

I was mainly talking about chart peak rather than streams overall as the chart peaks occurred at release and for an indie artist post 2015 it was impressive, obv post 17 a lot of tik tokers may have checked out his other material following this.

Surely his debut album being a big success is what helped set up SGU to be a bigger success, rather than the other way around?

 

His debut singles were definitely helping the hype towards him becoming a big name for himself.

 

But that's exactly how things *should* in theory, all work. The sequel should (again, in theory) always prove to be bigger than the first, no? (Same with movies, games etc..)

With 17 it didn’t go top 40 until a few months after release due to tik tok. It charted at 44 to start with.

Edited November 21, 20241 yr by Steve201

yes, that's the way it should be, you build a fanbase with your first singles and album 1, then album 2 take you to the next level

but think it only works with indie rock artists

with pop, labels don't have the patience, 3 singles flopping and you're out of your contract

with pop, especially pop girls, labels are very scared to even release a debut album ie Griff

Not necessarily out of contract but labels tend to keep talented pop artists as hostages: they refuse to release an album without a proper hit but don't want them to go elsewhere either (like Raye with Polydor).

Edited November 21, 20241 yr by Sour Candy