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11 minutes ago, Juranamo said:

I very much disagree! I always scout their playlists for new music too listen to!

Maybe if you dig deeper into random people’s public profiles but I’m with blacksquare here, their playlist culture is really pathetic.

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tbh even for the alt stuff I really despise the playlist curation on spotify… it’s all so vibey with zero editorial control or regard for the context of a scene or genre. this one’s a little old but I’ll use it as an example:IMG_4920.jpeg

deftones and smashing pumpkins in shoegaze classics.. like yeah they had fuzzy guitars, lots of distortion and reverb but that was nowhere near their scene!!! Ahistorical nonsense

62 feels like a good turnout! (If Ojnoj stick around, and I hope they do!)

i’ve pivoted to a dance floor BANGER that i’ve had on the back burner since the start of the year

i better get sympathy votes!

1 minute ago, LexC said:

Who's ready for the combined song length discourse AND contest size discourse y'all!

A full THIRD of semi finalists will DNQ!

Get ready for heartbreak as long songs get in and long streaks end in tears.

5 minutes ago, gooddelta said:

A full THIRD of semi finalists will DNQ!

Get ready for heartbreak as long songs get in and long streaks end in tears.

Tbf, I was fully expecting to come back this year to only 27-30 spaces in the final. We used to have more than 33% of entries DNQ-ing so there's no complaints from me on that one! (And I used to be very talented at coming 14th or 15th in a semi and just missing out, or dead last lol)

I'm quite behind on the discourse but I do hope Jonjo will still participate, would be a shame to pull out completely rather than just maybe having to skip through one song possibly two if 14 and a half minutes still counts as excessively long. (Your decision of course though x)

5 minutes ago, awardinary said:

Is there a record for the longest confirmations thread spanning 17 or more pages?

The early days were something else.

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The last two vetoes:

Foxes - Sister Ray 46

- artist came 1st in BJSC 41 and 16th in BJSC 49 3+12

- artist had 6 UK top 40 hits in 2013-2015 (highest position #7 for 'Let Go For Tonight') 12

- appeared in 16 personal charts (as of 2021, probably more since), peaking at #15 in November 2021. 7

- has a thread with 16 replies in the Pop forum and has been nominated for every eligible edition of Record Of The Decade, its highest placing being #50 in its year group, in 2023- substantial internet coverage exposure on this site. 12

- mid level blog coverage

- previously vetoed in BJSC 139.

Fcukers - I Like It Like That 20

- entered once previously, in CLXV, finishing 26th. 3

- appears in 9 personal charts (bgoood, DaTilt, RobBot, Mango, Chez Wombat, Rogue, HiyaLuv, jcwll, Jade)

- spent 3 weeks on the C-List on Radio 1's playlist in January (coinciding with them being Radio 1's Future Artist of the Month). 5

- thread for their album 'O' has 49 replies (3 pages) in the Dance Forum - substantial internet (this website) coverage. 12

- recently supported Harry Styles on tour.

I did have my doubts about Foxes as soon as I saw it but didn't want to overstep straight away.

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The PMs have been sent and ideally we would have reconfirmations asap. Tonight is out the window but I hope to be posting the semis as early as is feasible at some point tomorrow!

2 hours ago, Harve said:

Well I'm sure if the framework is being reviewed (which it sounds like it is), then perhaps we could draw from examples of specific entries that 'should' have been vetoed racking up surprisingly few points and rework the framework so that these entries meet the threshold. Not that I'm advocating for a stricter veto as it could of course work the other way (songs that rack up lots of veto points without being deemed veto-worthy), and nor do I have an opinion about the veto-ability of any of those artists/songs. But even if the framework is refined, it will always require discretion.

But if you're confused by what does and doesn't get vetoed then I'd probably look at the veto framework as a first port of call, even if it is not perfect, subject to opinion etc.

Good points here

The framework is partially quantitative and partly qualitative. That means there’s always a scope of interpretation in there. We do our best to be consistent month to month, helps we have a very experienced team, but we don’t always get it 100% spot on for everyone’s taste or viewpoint.

We try to be fair for the contest and to all of you. We are not here to throw out everything and anything and be overly restrictive, our best case scenario is a zero veto month and that’s what we aim for every month. The framework does need an update tho, it has served us well in it’s current form but it needs a wee refresher

Just for funziez, pending the two reconfirmations, these are the song lengths in this contest (anonymised of course, but spot yourself). All taken from Spotify, except for one song which isn't on there (but it is on Apple Music so Pavita/Jacob/Juranamo and maybe some others get special treatment this month).

There were only two songs above the 6 minute mark in the last contest so we do have a pretty notable uptick to (at least) 9 this month! But only the one behemoth at the top is longer than last month's longest, and only the top two are longer than last month's second longest. I don't personally consider songs in the 6 minute range to really be notable for being 'long' but I'm sure a lot of people do. x Still around 2/3 of all the entries are at most 4 minutes, and the average length is 4m 43s, or 3m 59s excluding the top two songs (which I think is pretty much bang on average, I tend to think 15 songs equals roughly an hour).

37m 8s

14m 37s

8m 45s

7m 24s

7m 3s

6m 51s

6m 21s

6m 1s

6m 0s

5m 59s

5m 46s

5m 17s

5m 1s

4m 59s

4m 59s

4m 53s

4m 37s

4m 30s

4m 23s

4m 19s

4m 13s

4m 0s

3m 58s

3m 53s

3m 48s

3m 44s

3m 44s

3m 36s

3m 36s

3m 36s

3m 33s

3m 32s

3m 31s

3m 27s

3m 25s

3m 24s

3m 23s

3m 18s

3m 15s

3m 10s

3m 9s

3m 8s

3m 0s

3m 0s

3m 0s

2m 59s

2m 59s

2m 58s

2m 57s

2m 54s

2m 49s

2m 49s

2m 42s

2m 41s

2m 40s

2m 36s

2m 34s

2m 33s

2m 30s

2m 18s

Mine isn't even in the bottom third of longest songs!

I don't think I've ever listened to a song longer than the last Elëdan entry... So that 37 minute album is gonna blast that record to shreds!

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2 minutes ago, Bror said:

37m 8s SKIP

14m 37s SKIP

8m 45s SKIP

7m 24s SKIP

7m 3s SKIP

6m 51s SKIP

6m 21s SKIP

6m 1s You have 2 minutes before I SKIP

6m 0s You have 2 minutes before I SKIP

5m 59s You have 2 minutes before I SKIP

5m 46s You have 2 minutes before I SKIP

5m 17s You have 2 minutes before I SKIP

5m 1s You have 2 minutes before I SKIP

4m 59s You have 2 minutes before I SKIP

4m 59s You have 2 minutes before I SKIP

4m 53s You have 2 minutes before I SKIP

4m 37s You have 2 minutes before I SKIP

4m 30s You're probably fine if it's a bop

4m 23s You're probably fine if it's a bop

4m 19s You're probably fine if it's a bop

4m 13s You're probably fine if it's a bop

4m 0s You're probably fine if it's a bop

3m 58s You're probably fine if it's a bop

3m 53s You're probably fine if it's a bop

3m 48s You're probably fine if it's a bop

3m 44s You're probably fine if it's a bop

3m 44s You're probably fine if it's a bop

3m 36s SLAY

3m 36s SLAY

3m 36s SLAY

3m 33s SLAY

3m 32s SLAY

3m 31s SLAY

3m 27s SLAY

3m 25s SLAY

3m 24s SLAY

3m 23s SLAY

3m 18s SLAY

3m 15s SLAY

3m 10s SLAY

3m 9s SLAY

3m 8s SLAY

3m 0s SLAY

3m 0s SLAY

3m 0s SLAY

2m 59s SLAY

2m 59s SLAY

2m 58s SLAY

2m 57s SLAY

2m 54s SLAY

2m 49s SLAY

2m 49s SLAY

2m 42s SLAY

2m 41s SLAY

2m 40s SLAY

2m 36s SLAY

2m 34s SLAY

2m 33s SLAY

2m 30s SLAY

2m 18s 18 points!!

This is gonna be a tough contest to vote in x

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