I wonder why Mariah always starts stronger

 

I imagine it’s to do with the marketing. You know she’s always posting “it’s time” videos straight after Halloween so she’s like the first Xmas song people go for and then as they listen more regularly they end up going for wham. That’s my assumption anyway

Queen of Xmas returning to the top 40. :D

 

JLS re-entering the top 20 too! I didn’t know acts celebrated 15th anniversaries. :o

15th anniversary edition

 

#12 is pretty good at this point, guess they will remain top 40 at this rate!

Bad Dreams and WILDFLOWER to stay in the top 10 please :wub: :wub:

Edited November 11, 20241 yr by detonate

hoping 'labour' stays in the top 40 come Friday! brilliant song :heart:

Why is the title for Sao Paulo now spelt wrong on the OCC website having been correct in the mids last week and then changed before Friday.

I did wonder why it appears as a re-entry, as I remembered seeing it in last Monday's mids!

I imagine it’s to do with the marketing. You know she’s always posting “it’s time” videos straight after Halloween so she’s like the first Xmas song people go for and then as they listen more regularly they end up going for wham. That’s my assumption anyway

 

I don’t think so because I’m sure it predates Mariah really jumping on the Christmas train (around 2017ish), I think maybe younger people start sooner so Mariah has a bit of a headstart, and it’s just a bit more uplifting than Wham and is more known for ringing in the Christmas season

Oh wow that's a great hold for the Cure, was assuming they would plummet so potentially staying top 5 would be a brilliant result

Even staying in the top 20 would be amazing, and well deserved.

The top 40 singles feels very stale. Everything has already peaked, lots of songs on ACR hanging about.

 

You know it’s bad when months old Teddy Swims songs are now going top 10. Hope Wildflower does make it though, it deserves a place in the top 10.

 

Actually ready for the Christmas clear out.

The Cure's album has been holding up really well on the Amazon chart (currently #2 and #4) so I figured that would be reflected in the official album chart too. Wonder if they could clear 10k again.

 

I guess not but it would be cool if the album hung around in a similar way to how The Rolling Stones did last year.

I don’t think so because I’m sure it predates Mariah really jumping on the Christmas train (around 2017ish), I think maybe younger people start sooner so Mariah has a bit of a headstart, and it’s just a bit more uplifting than Wham and is more known for ringing in the Christmas season

 

You could well be right on most of that - but until 2017, ‘Last Christmas’ was not one of the two highest charting Christmas songs. It’s only in recent years that ‘Last Christmas’ has charted higher than Mariah at all. Prior to that it was Mariah v Pogues - and Mariah was almost always ahead both at the beginning and the end of the season.

 

Mariah’s lead on November 1st on Spotify always declines massively over the next couple of days.

 

2023

1st 19,900

2nd 7,600

3rd 6,200

4th 6,000

5th 4,600

6th -1,700

 

2024

1st 20,000

2nd 4,300

3rd 600

4th -2,900

5th -2,300

6th -2,100

 

Also, I think Mariah’s best days are Fridays and Saturdays (party days?), with Wham! pulling ahead Sunday and Monday.

 

if only the OCC counted album streams properly... The Cure have been #3 all week on Apple Albums

I’m wounding if dirty cash get rest set scr on Friday

I’m wounding if dirty cash get rest set scr on Friday

 

Probably not unless they give it a manual reset

You could well be right on most of that - but until 2017, ‘Last Christmas’ was not one of the two highest charting Christmas songs. It’s only in recent years that ‘Last Christmas’ has charted higher than Mariah at all. Prior to that it was Mariah v Pogues - and Mariah was almost always ahead both at the beginning and the end of the season.

 

Mariah’s lead on November 1st on Spotify always declines massively over the next couple of days.

 

2023

1st 19,900

2nd 7,600

3rd 6,200

4th 6,000

5th 4,600

6th -1,700

 

2024

1st 20,000

2nd 4,300

3rd 600

4th -2,900

5th -2,300

6th -2,100

 

Also, I think Mariah’s best days are Fridays and Saturdays (party days?), with Wham! pulling ahead Sunday and Monday.

 

George Michael’s death in 2016 (on Christmas Day no less) is responsible for pushing it ahead of Mariah imo. It has a new sense of sadness and nostalgia that only seems to grow every year.

George Michael’s death in 2016 (on Christmas Day no less) is responsible for pushing it ahead of Mariah imo. It has a new sense of sadness and nostalgia that only seems to grow every year.

Exactly this. If George was still alive, you wouldn’t see Last Christmas ahead of Mariah. George’s death is what increased the popularity of this song

Edited November 12, 20241 yr by Hadji

^ But if it had been that surely “Last Christmas” would have spiked up in 2017 instead of gradually building each year relative to “All I Want For Christmas Is You”. It was only from 2021 that “Last Christmas” started doing better overall.

I just wanna see A Nonsense Christmas chart high this year so I can see them struggle with deciding how much of the song to censor.

^ But if it had been that surely “Last Christmas” would have spiked up in 2017 instead of gradually building each year relative to “All I Want For Christmas Is You”. It was only from 2021 that “Last Christmas” started doing better overall.

I don't think that's true - these are the peak positions for Last Christmas since 2016:

 

2016 - 7

2017 - 2

2018 - 3

2019 - 3

2020 - 1

2021 - 2

2022 - 1

2023 - 1

 

For comparison, Mariah's peaks are:

 

2016 - 5

2017 - 2

2018 - 2

2019 - 2

2020 - 1

2021 - 3

2022 - 1

2023 - 2

 

So it's pretty much always been neck and neck between them since 2017!